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Old 27-Jun-08, 05:08 PM   #1
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3 month plan to tone up ready for next term


Hey guys, new member, hi !

Wrote a big message b4 but hit back by mistake and got rid of it so going to keep it short and sweet.

I’m a university student, got slack over the past year due to socialising, partying women :P etc but didn’t do too much before just general fitness at the gym.
Want to train over the next 3 months while off, to get maximum muscle/tone and increase speed and agility for joining the lacrosse team next term.
I like intense workouts and thought up this plan, got a few ideas from other programs e.g. max ot
So this is basically it

Monday: (morning) Chest/back -----------(evening) agility
Tuesday: (morning) Shoulders/legs --------(evening) rest
Wednesday: (morning)Arms/abs -----------(evening) HIIT/ agility trainin
Thursday: (morning)rest -----------------(evening) HIIT/ agility trainin
Friday: (morning) Chest/back --------------(evening) agility
Saturday: (morning) Shoulders/legs ----------(evening) rest
Sunday: (morning)Arms/abs ---------------(evening) HIIT/ agility trainin

Exercises:
Chest:
Pushups - 3 warm up sets of 50/70/90% of max and then 3 sets of max
Bench press - 3 sets 6 reps max lift
Flys: 3 sets 6 reps max lift

Back
pullups - 3 warm up sets of 50/70/90% of max and then 3 sets of max
Bent over rows - 3 sets 6 reps max lift
Straight leg deadlifts - 3 sets 6 reps max lift

Legs
Squats - 3 warm up sets of 50/70/90% of max and then 3 sets of max
Lunges- 3 sets 6 reps max lift
Calf raises : 2 sets 6 reps max lift

Shoulders
Arnold press-3 warm up sets of 50/70/90% of max and then 3 sets of max
Shoulder press- 3 sets 6 reps max lift
Lateral raises: 3 sets 6 reps max lift

Arms
Bicep curl- 3 warm up sets of 50/70/90% of max and then 3 sets of max
HAmmer curl - 3 sets 6 reps max lift
Tricep extension: 3 sets 6 reps max lift
Dumbell kick backs: 3 sets 6 reps max lift

Abs
30s of each exercise, 30 second break then repeat whole thing again
Crunches
Cross over crunches
Bench leg raises
Jack knife
seated russian twist
bicycle
Dumbell side bends

The Evening running etc consists of HIIT and agility work ( found froma rugby/lacrosse training plan) e.g. running between cones etc

Explanation:
Just thought i use this to explain a few points of my work out
1. ive set it out the way it is so that i can work the muscles to exhaustion using high weight low rep. Also given myself 3 days to recover e.g. chest gets worked on Monday and not again till friday.

2. Iv not mixed HIIT days with leg work out due to dont want to over work them.

3. not doing a full body work out due to want to exhaust the muscles in under 45 minutes including warm up and down and don’t think i will be able to do it to each muscle in this time doing a full body work out

4. leaving 8 hours between weights and cv and 12 hours between cv and weights since been told if put it to close the running will deplete muscle

5. added flys in to chest work out due to triceps and shoulder let me down in bench press so not exhausting the chest.

6. i realise its a lot to do but i have Thursdays off from weights and not working/school so can relax or rest throughout the day.

7. i want to workout at home but only have a bench and weights + pull up bar and thts why i have chosen these exercises.

Basically im just pulling this all together from what iv read and trying to get good bits from everything but what thinks best if i just get your comments and either just give me tweaks i can make or completely trash it but either way would really appreciate your opinions on this what’s good what’s bad etc and ways around the problems if you see any.
p.s. Also I’m obviously going to compliment this with a healthy food plan, but im a bit stuck with this wondering if you could help me deduce my calorie needs ( checked 2 different sites used their calculate and got 1900 and 3800 lol so bit unsure) im 6’2 weigh 80kg = 176 pounds aprox. Also how i should divide this up between meals and between proteins/carbs/fats sorry this is a bit off topic.

P.s.s Was looking up this site, do you think its possible to get results liek this in 16 weeks only using protein supplements?
http://www.iwantsixpackabs.com/home_my_story.html

Thanks for any help you can give me
Mark
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Old 30-Jun-08, 12:17 PM   #2
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Hi Mark and welcome to DiscussFitness. I think your plan looks good, but I have two small tweaks to suggest.

Straight legged deadlifts are going to work your hams more than your back. I would move them to leg day. Also, you need at least one day off per week that you don't do any lifting or cardio. This lets you recouperate and also gives you a mental break.

As far as calories, are you currently gaining, losing, or maintaining your weight? If you're maintaining, then all you need to do is track everything you eat for a few days, and this is your maintenance calorie level.
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Straight legged deadlifts are going to work your hams more than your back.
Actually GHRs are better... no seriously though I have a question, kind of off topic, but it could still help lead OP in the right direction...

When doing SLDLs, how heavy should you be going? for example the guy who deads 600lbs. should he be doing around that much for straightlegs also... is it safe even?
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Old 03-Jul-08, 05:56 AM   #4
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P.s.s Was looking up this site, do you think its possible to get results liek this in 16 weeks only using protein supplements?
http://www.iwantsixpackabs.com/home_my_story.html
I agree with LiftGirl's tweaks.
And I'm not sure about the Deadlift question, sorry.

But I am pretty sure that you can't have two definite goals here.
I don't think it's smart to train both to get on the Lacrosse team AND get lean enough to see your abs.

I would concentrate on getting as strong, quick, flexible and plain old mean enough for the team. Who knows, depending upon your body type, that might be enough to pop out your washboard abs.
But just training for cover model body fat percentage might affect your performance.

My two cents,
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Actually GHRs are better... no seriously though I have a question, kind of off topic, but it could still help lead OP in the right direction...

When doing SLDLs, how heavy should you be going? for example the guy who deads 600lbs. should he be doing around that much for straightlegs also... is it safe even?
GHRs are good as well.

I would say for SLDL, start light and work your way up. When the weight is easy for your chosen number of reps, increase it a bit. I don't know that your SLDL and CDL weights will always be the same. Treat them as two separate lifts.
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Mark, welcome me old china plate (mate)
Agree with good advise above but i would put shoulders with arms and abs with legs.
Legs demand heaps of energy so shoulders would suffer if trained on same day.
Legs really should be alone on any day so this is why abs are perfect as they dont sap the energy tank, GOOD LUCK
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Old 04-Jul-08, 04:20 PM   #7
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hey guys cheers for all the advice. k so now iv swapped me days to legs and abs and arms and shoulders ( cheers bodyshop), and going to put straight leg deadlifts on leg days ( cheers lift girl). Any chance you no any good free weight lower back exercises?
Thanks for clearing up the whole trying to get body image and lacrosse training, but wouldnt having low body fat hi muscule mass help or wud it hinder?
Realise tht it will take more time to do both so will try and just do the lacrosse.
one last thing buying protein, im buying sum impact whey protein 5kg = £36 inc p&p is this good stuff price etc
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powd...-whey-protein/

once again cheers for all your help peps
thanks alot
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Any chance you no any good free weight lower back exercises?
Thanks for clearing up the whole trying to get body image and lacrosse training, but wouldnt having low body fat hi muscule mass help or wud it hinder?
Realise tht it will take more time to do both so will try and just do the lacrosse.
one last thing buying protein, im buying sum impact whey protein 5kg = £36 inc p&p is this good stuff price etc
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powd...-whey-protein/

once again cheers for all your help peps
thanks alot
Mark
Lower back - Back extensions, Deadlifts (all kinds), GHRs

yes, it will take much more time, these guys you see out here with low BF% and huge muscles, didnt just pick up wieghts for their first time and make those gains in 3 months... its all about dieting, about gaining and feeding for weight gain and muscle, and the cutting your diet down and getting rid of fat, which will potentially lose muscle in the process.

Taking the approach of not gaining no fat at all, and eating enough to supply muscle growth only, is very hard, and takes long time to see results, especially without supplements (no offense to anyone, just saying if you have a perfect diet like that, then supplements if taken right also, are going to help you)
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Any chance you no any good free weight lower back exercises?
I usually just let CDLs and squats take care of my lower back.
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