are you still considered a natural if you take Whey??

Bajwa_99 · 03-Mar-06, 12:53 PM

It's a question I haven't really asked myself until now, ever since I've started drinking Whey protein since november, I've noticed it's played a big part in my muscle growth and increases in lifts, so what I want to know is a person still considered a natural if he/she drinks whey protein a lot?? meaning 3 times a day on workout days and twice a day on non workout days. That's how I do it anyways..

Gearloose · 03-Mar-06, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bajwa_99

It's a question I haven't really asked myself until now, ever since I've started drinking Whey protein since november, I've noticed it's played a big part in my muscle growth and increases in lifts, so what I want to know is a person still considered a natural if he/she drinks whey protein a lot?? meaning 3 times a day on workout days and twice a day on non workout days. That's how I do it anyways..

Whey is a food supplement, not a drug. Especially not a drug like anablic steroids. It's basically dried milk. (actually, what's left after making cheese or butter)

**MAURER** · 03-Mar-06, 01:30 PM

definitely natural

Blaze · 03-Mar-06, 01:35 PM

Yeah. You eat protien throughout the day right? Whey is nothing but highly concentrated protien. The only difference is it has all the amino acids.

Maxgain · 03-Mar-06, 01:50 PM

Definatly waht you are asking is am i still natural by taking extra protein in my diet.

**cursor** · 03-Mar-06, 01:52 PM

There is certainly nothing unnatural about whey.

It's an extracted and dehydrated dairy product.

All food sources all have some protein (with very few exceptions, that is). Foods that are higher in lean protein represent a smart way to supply your body with the amino acids required for tissue rebuilding. Whey is one of those foods whose protein content is very high, while offering very little carbohydrate and fat values.

Many foods have a full array of all essential amino acids.

killerduck · 04-Mar-06, 03:57 PM

i would personally say no. But i dont think there is anything wrong with it. i would say no becuase you dont often see a 908g tub of whey growning on a tree. But whatever.

**cursor** · 04-Mar-06, 04:03 PM

With killerduck's line of logic we couldn't be be "natural" because ... you don't often see gallons of milk growing on trees, or whole wheat flour drawn from the udder of a cow, or single-serving bottles of orange juice growing up out of the ground, or ...

Because something is extracted from a natural food in no way precludes it from being "natural".

**.V.** · 04-Mar-06, 09:00 PM

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i would personally say no. But i dont think there is anything wrong with it. i would say no becuase you dont often see a 908g tub of whey growning on a tree. But whatever.

You mean I got ripped off when I bought the seeds for the whey trees? I just thought they took a long time to grow.

**cursor** · 05-Mar-06, 09:45 AM

What does it mean to be 'natural'

CF-OC_gal · 05-Mar-06, 10:47 AM

All these things mentioned are processed food, some processed more than others. We've all got our own personal tolerance levels that fit our value system. No one's value system is better than anyone elses, they are just different!

It's often recommended to eat as little processed food as possible, but hey, this is the 21st century, we hunt and gather at a little faster pace than scrounging nuts, seeds and berries can fuel us for. How many of us are willing to go out and spear a fish for supper? Well, Welch wouldn't die, he'd go get us a game cock every now and then when one flys by I suppose.

There is a big difference between consuming whey powder and something like a perfectly lab-crafted bag of microwave popcorn. I guess if whey powder was to be a more processed food there would be something done to it to improve the gawd-awful taste and texture.

**.V.** · 05-Mar-06, 10:58 AM

yeah but I still take my whey, about 10 scoops a day. I'm far too lazy to spear a fish though - I use a rod and reel for that. Sadly, it's march...closed season for trout in our state. Saturday, April 1st is opening day. Yummy trout for the oven.

Gearloose · 05-Mar-06, 11:17 AM

I'd say that a tub of Whey is about equal on the lab processing scale as a bag of microwave popcorn.

Actually, virtually everything we eat, whether animal product or vegetable, organically grown or not, is man-made if you think about it.

Whether it is Broccoli or Beef, the modern version has been selectively bred and changed by generations of human farmers and ranchers. The original species were very different. Corn is a classic example. The original plant, before Native Americans and later modern farmers, started tinkering with it, resembled wheat more than it does it's modern counterpart.

About the only "natural" foods we eat are wild caught seafood and wild game. There are a very few "natural" (read wild) plant products on the market, but they are definitely in the minority. How many folks make truffles a part of their daily diet?

Even the nuts and berries available in stores are mostly from selectively bred trees and plants grown on farms.

CF-OC_gal · 05-Mar-06, 02:18 PM

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I'd say that a tub of Whey is about equal on the lab processing scale as a bag of microwave popcorn.

Then why the heck can't they make whey powder taste and mix any better?! I want some of those flavour analysts and mouth feel scientists to come up with something that tastes good and satisfying, not like some phoney banana-chocolate-flavoured-burped-up after taste. Oh wait a minute they can't !They'd have to add back that saturated fat they took out called "cheese".

I have a cuisinart in my kitchen. It was promoted as a food processor. I guess we can't escape it. (It does mix great smoothies and mayonnaise, better than industrial)

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How many folks make truffles a part of their daily diet?

I can't, I'd need to get a pig to find them, then I would want to have pork and truffles for supper! Unless you are talking about the belgian chocolate kind. I'd be happy to make them a part of my daily diet. That would certainly test the limits of my metabolism!

killerduck · 05-Mar-06, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cursor

With killerduck's line of logic we couldn't be be "natural" because ... you don't often see gallons of milk growing on trees, or whole wheat flour drawn from the udder of a cow, or single-serving bottles of orange juice growing up out of the ground, or ...

Because something is extracted from a natural food in no way precludes it from being "natural".

i'm no expert at this stuff so i might be wrong, if i am please correct me oh mighty one. But i would have thought that some chemicals or something would be added to whey protein. Or is it completly 100% unaltered extract of whatever.