hGH?

[Mgkeeper]

So is this a good thing, or is it bad like steroids?

[threenorns]

stay away.

stay far away.

[Justice]

yeha like threenorns said stay away from it........

[DAG447]

hgh = human growth hormone
->> bad like steroids and so I agree with threenorns and justice.

[threenorns]

two side effects commonly reported: loss of control of emotions and sex drive that's difficult to control.

combine those with strength increasing faster than you can mentally adjust for, and the potential is there for ppl to get hurt.

[pseudonym]

if 3 is right it sounds like someone slipped me a bit of this 'hgh stuff' around about my 13th birthday

[threenorns]

yeah - blame your pituitary, lol.

now just imagine that temperament combined with strength to bench press 200lbs+ .

[pmcgough]

you guys don't know anything...hgh, when used properly(under a doctors supervision), is perfectly safe, such as 2 iu's a day for 2 months

the only downsides are cost and increased amounts of erections....id recomend you head over to www.anabolicminds.com and go the the igf-1/gh/slin section

they have much more knowledge than people here WHO HAVE NEVER EVEN DONE IT...i haven't either, but you dont know if it's bad until you have really...and most everything is good in moderation

[threenorns]

i don't have to drink antifreeze to know it's not good for me.

hgh, like anything else in that class, shouldn't be taken without expert supervision. it's not something a newbie can just muck about with and learn by trial-and-error. while learning from the net is fine and dandy, that doesn't help if you have unexpected side effects and need help NOW. the quality is too dodgy too, unless you're willing to shell out the big money, which most ppl can't afford unless they're professional athletes. how do you know you're getting proper HGH and not something farm grade?

granted, i'm biased: i'm female and have no desire to grow an adam's apple.

but HGH, steroids, etc, should ONLY be taken once you've reached a high degree of expertise in the sport. until then, the focus must be on perfecting technique and progressing as far as you can without artificial aids - and that IS from someone who trains powerlifters for a living.

[candyass]

Don't mess around with your hormones unless you really know what your doing. Looking **** up on the internet doesnt count.

[pmcgough]

Originally Posted by threenorns

granted, i'm biased: i'm female and have no desire to grow an adam's apple.

hgh wouldnt do that to you...and neither would steroids...do some research rather than put out opinions on subjects


as for spray/oral hgh, it doesnt work...only injectable hgh does the trick

[cursor]

Here are some interesting articles that I just read on hGH (same author as 3norn's muscle-fiber reference):

• Growth Hormone - The Controversy That Never Was
• Growing Beyond What Nature Intended - Growth Factors Take us to the Next Level of Sophistication in Bodybuilding

[threenorns]

Originally Posted by pmcgough

hgh wouldnt do that to you...and neither would steroids...do some research rather than put out opinions on subjects


as for spray/oral hgh, it doesnt work...only injectable hgh does the trick

that was a facetious comment meant to illustrate the FACT that female pro bodybuilders look like men, right down to the dropped voices and masculinized facial features. if you need me to, i can drop you a half-dozen links to photos or you can just watch the show "supersize she". it's downright SCARY.

[threenorns]

Originally Posted by pmcgough

you guys don't know anything...hgh, when used properly(under a doctors supervision), is perfectly safe, such as 2 iu's a day for 2 months

the only downsides are cost and increased amounts of erections....id recomend you head over to www.anabolicminds.com and go the the igf-1/gh/slin section

they have much more knowledge than people here WHO HAVE NEVER EVEN DONE IT...i haven't either, but you dont know if it's bad until you have really...and most everything is good in moderation

from the second article cursor posted (bolding mine):

When using testosterones to boost GH and thus IGF-1 it is not necessary to go completely without complimentary antiestrogens and/or estrogen antagonists. A good approach is to use a combination of aminoglutethimide (Cytadren) an aromatase inhibitor, and clomiphene (Clomid) an estrogen antagonist.

Assuming that you are not exceeding 600-800 milligrams of Testosterone per week I would suggest taking only 1/4 tablet of Cytadren, 2-3 times per day, or every 8-6 hours respectively. This may be less than would be necessary to completely block estrogen related side effects. When using an aromatase inhibitor, the idea is not to completely block aromatization, but to keep it within a reasonable rate. Clomid may also be necessary especially if taking higher doses of testosterone or exogenous IGF-1. IGF-1 is known to have lead to gyno in some cases involving the elderly.13,14 This is presumably because of its ability to co-activate estrogen receptors in breast tissue. The usual practice when taking Clomid is to take a higher dose on the first day and then reduce the dose thereafter. Like Deca, Clomid’s long half life leads to an accumulative effect when taken daily. Once again I would recommend a dosing pattern slightly below the usual. Take one 50 milligram tablet three times per day on the first day, then ½ tablet per day thereafter. If side effects become unbearable on this dosing pattern, increase the antiestrogen (i.e. Clomid) first, then the aromatase inhibitor (i.e. Cytadren).

Finally, it may be necessary to add a small bit of finasteride to the mix in the form of Proscar or Propecia. However, I would prefer that you try Nizoral combined with Minoxidil first. If that is not enough, add the finasteride. Just how much depends on how bad you are losing your hair and how much you value sexual performance. If using Proscar, try taking one half tablet (2.5 mg) per day. It isn’t necessary to take with meals. If using Propecia, just take one tablet per day.

not quite as free 'n' easy as all that, after all.....

[cursor]

Why not simply encourage your own body to efficiently produce growth hormone?