How much Protein?

Mgkeeper · 27-Jun-05, 10:37 PM

How much %DV of protein do you need daily for the quickest results when working out?

I know it depends on what ur diets calories are, but just a general guideline I can change to my body's liking would be great.

Thanks!

**threenorns** · 27-Jun-05, 10:39 PM

1g per pound of bodyweight to start if you don't know BF, if you do, it's about 1.5g per lb of lean mass. if you're doing REALLY heavy weights, go up to 2g per lb of bodyweight; if you're female and a bit petite or doing little weights, you might wanna drop to .9g/lb bodyweight.

Mgkeeper · 27-Jun-05, 10:43 PM

ARE YOU SERIOUS!!

thats like 400% DV!!

im about 200lbs and 1 g of protein = 2% for a 2,000 calorie diet :O

**threenorns** · 27-Jun-05, 10:58 PM

ignore the daily value - again, that's for AVERAGE people with AVERAGE builds of AVERAGE activity levels.

many guys in here are *losing* weight at 3000 calories.

if you want to build muscle, you need to eat protein - much of it. if you don't eat it, you won't have the ingredients needed and therefore, you won't grow muscle - your body will be forced to cannabilize other muscles not being used as much to repair muscle damage through working out.

your math is off: 1g of protein = 0.2% of a 2,000 calorie diet (4 calorie per gram)

EDIT:

dunno how old you are, so i guesstimated 22.

a 22 yr old very active male height 6'3" weight 200 needs about 3600 calories a day to ***maintain*** his weight.

to lose fat, drop to 3000 calories per day. that's 4200 deficit per week, or a little over a pound loss.

out of that 3000 calories, you need about 200 grams of protein (honestly, you probably need more, depending on your body type), which is 800 calories.

Mgkeeper · 27-Jun-05, 11:08 PM

im 18, the amt is ok, the only problem with it is that i was planninf to create..."the beef jerky diet"

but since each pack is about $5 and only has around 50g protein, thats dead lol

Can someone point me to a thread with a good protein diet thats not so harsh on the wallet?

**threenorns** · 27-Jun-05, 11:25 PM

eggs, tuna, dairy.

you might also consider investing in a tub of whey protein isolate - the initial price is a hit, but it'll last a while and the cost per serving is cheaper than eggs.

Mgkeeper · 27-Jun-05, 11:34 PM

hmmm where can i get some of that isolate? Please dont tell me its a nasty shake kinda thing like all the protein suppliments...

also, I thought dairy is "second class protein" and its missing an amino acid that eggs, meat, etc (first class) has?

(i read that somewhere lol)

**threenorns** · 27-Jun-05, 11:38 PM

dairy is a staple of just about every weight-gaining diet unless they're intolerant or vegan - nothing wrong with it.

whey protein isolate is something similar to the protein shakes, except it's nothing but pure protein - no flavourings, no sweeteners, nothing; it's tasteless. you add it to the beverage of your choice.

Mgkeeper · 27-Jun-05, 11:42 PM

I LOVE IT, so can I add it to a pepsi??

*waits impatiently for his dream of a pepsi diet to come true*

I know if i google this stuff ill get 4 million advetisements for it, and I dont know the first thing about this stuff. Is there a particular brand of this stuff that you recommend?

**threenorns** · 27-Jun-05, 11:43 PM

not i - my protein requirements are not enough to warrant the use.

however, check in the supplements forum and see who's liking what.

Mgkeeper · 27-Jun-05, 11:44 PM

also about dairy, i get these really cheep (like a dollar lol) pizza called "totinos party pizzas"

And they have like 25g of protein per pizza (these things are small i could eat 10 a day easy)

Is that ok, or is there something for me to watch out for?? (maybe the carns in the dough?)

Mgkeeper · 27-Jun-05, 11:46 PM

hmmm see now im starting to wonder about that. Do you think thats something I should use if I just wanna lean myself up and gain about 20 or so lbs of muscle over my current wright?

Or is this something that only serious Body Builders use?

**threenorns** · 27-Jun-05, 11:47 PM

you want to look at the total number of calories, the sodium content, and the type of carbs. if it's white flour, then you're looking at simple carbs and it's not good. for preference, you want whole-grain breads and such.

a great way to fake pizza is to make toast from whole-grain bread, then top it with cheese, sauce, meat, veggies, whatever you like on your pizza and then grill it in a toaster oven or the top rack of your oven until done.

**maverick** · 28-Jun-05, 10:16 AM

I took an EXTREME calorie restriction for the last week of my cut, and was still hitting 2100 cals daily. People who exercise regularly need to find their own daily needs.

**threenorns** · 28-Jun-05, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mgkeeper

hmmm see now im starting to wonder about that. Do you think thats something I should use if I just wanna lean myself up and gain about 20 or so lbs of muscle over my current wright?

Or is this something that only serious Body Builders use?

you're not serious about shaping up?