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Old 16-Jun-03, 02:02 PM   #1
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How's this schedule?


First, a little background info. I am 25 and have been lifting for about 8-9 months seriously and before that, about a year working out at home with extremely minimal results.

My friend needed a workout partner and he has been working out on and off for about 10+ years.

He came up with this schedule, and we've gone through the first week.

Code:
Mon - chest and back
incline db
flat bb
incline bb
incline db flys
flat db flys
db pullovers

pullups
bb rows
deadlifts
hyperextensions
close grip seated cable rows


Tuesday - shoulders and arms
db press
front/lat raises
rear delt/pec dec machine
seated db curls
bb curls
close grip bb tricep press
dips
upright rows
shrugs


Wednesday - legs
squats
leg press
lying hamstring curls
leg extensions
calf raises
reverse calf raises

Thursday - same as Monday

Friday - same as Tuesday with arms first, then shoulders then upright rows, shrugs

Everyday - abs and calf/reverse calf raises
We've gone through one week and am starting the second week now. We are supposed to do a third week and then switch it so that it goes like this:

Mon - back then chest
Tuesday - arms then shoulders
Wednesday - legs
Thursday - same as Mond
Fri - shoulders then arms

while doing the same exercises.

For the past two months, we have been doing this schedule:

Code:
Mon - shoulders

db press
upright rows
db front/lat raise
rear pec dec/lat machine
shurgs


Tues - back

pullups/chinups
bb row
deadlifts
hyperextensions
cable seated straight back row


Wed - legs

squats
leg press
lying hamstring curls
leg extensions
calf raises
reverse calf raises


Thurs - chest

incline db/bb
flat bb
decline bb
close grip flat / db flys
db pullovers 


Fri - arms

seated db curls
bb curls
close grip bb tricep press
dips
hammer curls
bb wrist curls
db reservse wrist curls


Everyday - abs / calves / cardio for 15-20 minutes
And before that, we had full body workout 3 days a week.
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Old 16-Jun-03, 02:05 PM   #2
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"and before that, about a year working out at home with extremely minimal results."

How are your results now? You mention nothing of diet. Are you getting the proper nutrition?

You can work out till you're near death (and it appears you are) but unless you're eating right, you're not going to gain an ounce.

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Old 16-Jun-03, 02:39 PM   #3
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"and before that, about a year working out at home with extremely minimal results."

How are your results now? You mention nothing of diet. Are you getting the proper nutrition?

You can work out till you're near death (and it appears you are) but unless you're eating right, you're not going to gain an ounce.
My strength has definately increased, but I haven't gotten any bigger really. I've gained only about 10 lbs in the 8-9 months. (Went up from around a steady 110/115 to a steady 125.)

My diet was extremely poor at the beginning as I didn't really know "how" to eat.

Currently, my diet consists of:
breakfast - egg and ham sandwich with coffee (occasionally a bowl of oatmeal)
mid-morning - protein shake
lunch - 2 slices of pizza
afternoon - rice with chicken
before workout - protein shake + a slice or two of whole wheat bread
after workout - protein shake
dinner - rice with chicken or fish or occasionally steak, with veggies
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Start logging those grams of protein, carbs, fat and calories. It's not the workout that's holding back your gains.

How many reps/sets of each exercise are you doing?
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Start logging those grams of protein, carbs, fat and calories. It's not the workout that's holding back your gains.

How many reps/sets of each exercise are you doing?
3 sets of 8-10 reps. Some I warm up with a set of 15 reps with a really light weight.
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The reps/sets sound fine. But you're overworking your body with too many exercises.

Others here can give you better direction on the routine but I'd say keep it at most 4 days a week working out (I only do 3). And cut out (or alternate week to week) some of the exercises that work the same muscle twice.

Abs and calves every day? Way overkill. You can get away with working abs once a week.
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Old 19-Jun-03, 12:38 AM   #7
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Re: How's this schedule?


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Originally posted by clee130
First, a little background info. I am 25 and have been lifting for about 8-9 months seriously and before that, about a year working out at home with extremely minimal results.

My friend needed a workout partner and he has been working out on and off for about 10+ years.

He came up with this schedule, and we've gone through the first week.

Code:
Mon - chest and back
incline db
flat bb
incline bb
incline db flys
flat db flys
db pullovers

pullups
bb rows
deadlifts
hyperextensions
close grip seated cable rows


Tuesday - shoulders and arms
db press
front/lat raises
rear delt/pec dec machine
seated db curls
bb curls
close grip bb tricep press
dips
upright rows
shrugs


Wednesday - legs
squats
leg press
lying hamstring curls
leg extensions
calf raises
reverse calf raises

Thursday - same as Monday

Friday - same as Tuesday with arms first, then shoulders then upright rows, shrugs

Everyday - abs and calf/reverse calf raises
We've gone through one week and am starting the second week now. We are supposed to do a third week and then switch it so that it goes like this:

Mon - back then chest
Tuesday - arms then shoulders
Wednesday - legs
Thursday - same as Mond
Fri - shoulders then arms

while doing the same exercises.

For the past two months, we have been doing this schedule:

Code:
Mon - shoulders

db press
upright rows
db front/lat raise
rear pec dec/lat machine
shurgs


Tues - back

pullups/chinups
bb row
deadlifts
hyperextensions
cable seated straight back row


Wed - legs

squats
leg press
lying hamstring curls
leg extensions
calf raises
reverse calf raises


Thurs - chest

incline db/bb
flat bb
decline bb
close grip flat / db flys
db pullovers 


Fri - arms

seated db curls
bb curls
close grip bb tricep press
dips
hammer curls
bb wrist curls
db reservse wrist curls


Everyday - abs / calves / cardio for 15-20 minutes
And before that, we had full body workout 3 days a week.
It looks like your doing a lot for one day. Remember that during your chest workout you are involving a lot of shoulders. To your shoulders working them out the day after your chest is just like working them out two days in a row, same with triceps.

Cut down your chest exercises, you onle to trash those muscles with one exercise per plane of motion to get good growth, this is how I would split you up.

Mon - Chest, Shoulders, Tricep

Incline Press (some days start with incline, others start with flat)
Bench Press
Cable Cross Over or Decline Press (switch these two every so often)
Upright Row
Shoulder Press or Dips (switch these two every so often)
Tricep Ext or Skull Crushers (switch these two every so often)
Ab Crunches or Leg Raises (switch these two every so often)

Wednesday
Squats (some days start with deadlifts, others start with Squats)
Deadlifts
Leg Press
Leg Curl
Hip Ext
Calf Raise

Friday
Row
Lat-Pulldown
Rear Delt Lateral raises or reverse pec deck
Shrugs
Barbell Bicep Curl
Preacher Curl
Back Ext

That should work for you. Check out Maxima's Monitor in the Diet and Nutrition Section, I cannot stress how important a proper nutrition plan is. Try to eat six times a day, if your job does not allow this because of time make a post there and I will give you tips on meals on the go as will others.

If you feel that three days is just to little, I have been having really great gains with this program along with solid nutrition as listed on my thread in the nutrition section.

It only takes me two sets to reach total muscle fatigue for each of these exercises, so put every thing into each set (after warm up), when your muscles feel numb move on.

Monday
Squats
Incline Barbell Press
Leg Press
Barbell Flat
Upright Row
Dips
Tricep Ext
Abs

Tuesday
Deadlift
Row
Leg Curl
Lat-Pulldown
Rear Delt Lateral Raise or Reverse Pec Deck
Shrugs
Barbell Curl
Back Ext

Wednesday Off

Thursday
Squats
Barbell Bench Press
Leg Press
Incline Press
Upright Row
Shoulder Press
Skull Crushers
Abs

Friday
Deadlift
Lat-pulldown
Leg Curl
Row
Shrugs
Rear Delt laterals
Incline or Preacher Curl
Back Ext

I also follow a periodized schedule. My first week of lifting I do reps of 15. Each following week I add weight, or go to the next pin in the stack (on machines.) Once I get to a weight that only allows me to do six reps, thats where I quit. The following week I will do the weight I did for six rep sets, but do drop sets (3 or so) where I strip the weight off and keep going. After this week I take one week of rest off. I try to do this 2 times before doing my first 15 rep week at the weight I had done the second week on the previous rotation. This may be advanced but you can give it a whirl. If you feel your muscles are not getting pumped then you are probably over training and need to go to the 3 day week split I gave you at least for a little while. Let me know if you need any more help.
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