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07-Nov-07, 10:11 PM
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Incline/decline bench
sry searched but couldn't find the answer. Is it necessary to have your feet flat on the ground during incline or decline bench?
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07-Nov-07, 11:18 PM
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Dr. Huge
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well during decline bench your feet are elevated so no. during incline bench however, your feet should be planted either on the floor or some other solid footing, otherwise you will slip down. if you get on your toes or something like that, you are probably arching your back, which is not a good idea.
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07-Nov-07, 11:24 PM
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I would say always plant your feet on the ground to suport your body, but any declined bench I have used will prevent that. flat and inclined benching deffinatly plant the feet firmly.
The following was originally posted by jaster. (I personally found this to be very helpfull for my bench)
More Bench tips
Most people don't take the time to really analyze their bench or study the body enough to learn the physiology of the muscles involved.
There are actually many more muscles involved but I will touch on the main ones.
Triceps: Probably the most important part of the bench is the lockout and where most people fail.
Upper Back: There are many muscles involved but I will summarize by saying if you are not using your lats when you explode out of the bottom you are missing something. I have yet to see a big bencher that didn't have a thick set of lats.
Rotator Cuff Muscles: These muscles stabilize the shoulder.
Pec Major/Minor: Important in horizontal adduction of the humerus. Mostly comes into play during early push off of chest just until triceps take over from front delts; important during initial push off the chest.
How To Improve
Your job is to figure out where you are slowing down and what muscle group is primarily responsible for that part of the action. People that have trained "touch and go" or stop short of the chest are going to need to do accessory exercises to help strengthen the push off of the chest.
My suggestion would be flat dumbells ALL the way until touching the chest. Also decline presses help strengthen more pec, shoulder, and 'front' lat.
Of course, nothing works better than lowering the bar slowly to the chest and using a long pause.
You will find you are weak if you have never done this before but add the other exercises and this portion will strengthen quickly. Also, many bodybuilders bench with their elbows back towards their head and the bar high on the chest. This is not condusive to a big bench.
You want to draw as many big muscles into action as possible. Try lowering your elbows and using more tricep. When I bench, the bar touches under my breast line on my xyphoid process so that I can take advantage of the power of my triceps.
Grip width is another subject matter that is very important. This varies from person to person depending on the length of the arm.
In my opinion, you have the most power when your forearm is perpendicular to the floor when the bar is sitting on your chest. You have more leverage if your forearm is directly under the bar and not at an angle.This should be your grip width.
If you are sticking during the transition phase or the middle part of the movement you need to work on explosion off of the chest with as much force as possible.
I used to bench in the rack on occasion and set the pins so that we were locked into the center part of the lift and we would pause on the bottom peg and explode until the bar was jammed against the top peg(a few inches short of lockout) and we would hold it for 5-10 seconds, repeating this for several reps. This always seemed to help pick that phase up for me.
If you are sticking about 4-6 inches short of lockout you have weak triceps. You can add chains for resistance, try power bands or, if you don't have access to these tools, try doing lockouts in the power rack.
We set the pegs at the height of the intitial lockout phase and press from that point to full extension. This does wonders for tri strength. Also floor presses (with dumbell or bb) pressing from the point elbows touch the floor to lockout. Also close grip bench on a thick chest pad works too.
Let's not forget wrist strength. Of course, you can always use wrist wraps but if you want stability you really should have strong enough wrists to securely hold the weight in position. It would sure suck to have the weight roll right out of our hands in mid-air onto your chest as I witnessed before.
There are MANY more things I could mention here but this is just the basics to get you all thinking and hopefully on your way to a bigger bench!
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08-Nov-07, 04:14 PM
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You can firmly plant your feet on the ground without having them FLAT on the ground. When I do flat or incline bench, it's mostly just my toes on the ground forming my solid base, not a flat foot.
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08-Nov-07, 06:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gcs118
You can firmly plant your feet on the ground without having them FLAT on the ground. When I do flat or incline bench, it's mostly just my toes on the ground forming my solid base, not a flat foot.
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Is your bench high, or do you arch your back?
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08-Nov-07, 07:01 PM
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I use PL set up and my back is arched, feet tucked under me.
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09-Nov-07, 01:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gcs118
You can firmly plant your feet on the ground without having them FLAT on the ground. When I do flat or incline bench, it's mostly just my toes on the ground forming my solid base, not a flat foot.
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I do the same thing (especially when going heavy on a flat bench). I always make sure never to push my but off the bench though.
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09-Nov-07, 08:44 AM
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Dr. Huge
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that might be okay for advanced lifters who have been benching a long time, are used to the form and can arch their back because they care more about being able to bench the highest possible weight than keeping strict form. however, for most people, especially for those who are still asking questions about benching, i would say its a much better idea not to arch your back and therefore keep yourr feet flat on the ground.
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04-Dec-07, 08:03 PM
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dude! im a begginer by all means, so maybe my advice may be of no help, but I cross my legs and hold them in the air, like over my abdominals, not that high neccesarily, but yea, I feel it makes you hold more of a balance which I can feel it work my traps and upper back a little more and even my seratus if thats possible. I also had to drop my wieght by 20 lbs. another reason suggesting you use more stabilizer muscles, I mean Id be care ful not drop the bar if you cant handle it, but then again like I said I dropped my wieght and after 4 weeks I back to where I was using 2 45's, plus one of the free personal trainers suggested it to me and spotted me thru it... I like it tho.
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