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[Titus]

Hey hows it going?

Well you might remmeber me , I'll just give you some background info on me.. so Im 16, 6'0 and 135lbs.

Well Im happy to say that I just got weights, I got a barbell set, with 100lbs of add-on weight so Im happy and pumped to get working out.

I have some questions though.
I've tried to alter my diet now to eat about 8 meals a day. So this is what I'm doing and I"ve been trying to get as much protein in my body, but:

1) I heard that protein is processed very slowly by the body so that excess protein is released through urine so is too much protein not good enough?

So this is what one of my days eating would go like: (ate yesterday) (I am in school as well)


(7:30am): 2 Fried eggs, 2 cups of soya milk
(11:00am): Sandwich (Consists of about 15 slices of 2 diffrent types of salami and cheese with mustard)
(1:00pm): identical sandwich as at lunch
(3:30pm): 2 bagels with creamchese, cup of milk, nut mix and protein bar
(6:00pm): mashed potatoes along with vegtables and chicken
(8:00pm): Small snack of apple and some fruits
(9:30pm) Workout
(10:30pm) Protein Shake and Apple
(11:00pm) Sleeping..

I don't know if thats a good schedule I hardly try for variety anymore.. but yea thats what I got going right now I don't always eat the same dinner but the same Lunch and Breakfast

With this I've already gained a pound don' t know if its here to stay but I've gained a lb and I feel better being full all the time

Now about my supplements:

I went to the store and I was about to buy Creatine when my mom said she didn't trust it so we went and asked the health guy over tehre and he gave us this huge explanation of what it does , I already knew all this but then he showed us all the side effects of the product if taken incorrectly. He said to ask you guys at the board if creatine can be mixed with orange or apple juice and he said that you said "yes" your full of crap because you cannot mix it with anythign acidic. He made it sound really bad to take it, he said he recommends I"m 20 before I start taking it.. I was so pissed that day but that day I got on the phone with the female gold medalist of Canada in Weight Lifting ( The guy at the store called her up cause he knew her) and she told me the same thing the guy told me not to take creatine untill im 18 at least. So she recommend the protein supplement from PROLAB called "N-Large 2" to get bigger. So I bought this and she said to take half a serving instead of a full serving ( 4 scoops) so thats what I've been doing it hasn't been a week yet but thats what Im eating right now. Hope its good.

2) Any recommendations to my diet or supplements?



Well if you can answer those questions for me it would be great. Now I need a list of excersizes I can do and I got get bigger!! This site has helped me alot thanks.

[AvgGuy]

May be cut out some of the fats. I have been eating egg whites in the morning, boil a 6 at the begining of the week and see if you can eat 3 whites monday and tuesday morning. Dont eat the fried eggs, cause the yollk has alot of fat in it. This is also high in colestreol and isnt good for you.

If you eat alot of fatty sandwhich meats this might give you more fat then needed. Try cutting these down to half that size.

I have always heard 1.5 times your wieght - the amount in grams you should have of protein. So if your 130 lbs x 1.5 that is about 195 or 200 g of protein. Any more then that will be a waste.

Not sure on the supplements and all that stuff with your age. Search on google to see if others have had problems with creatine and age issues.

[maverick]

Actually, a lot of people around here say that you need roughly 1 g of protein for each pound of LEAN body mass.

[AvgGuy]

Originally Posted by maverick

Actually, a lot of people around here say that you need roughly 1 g of protein for each pound of LEAN body mass.

I have heard it is higher if you are trying to increase/grow, but the comment on LEAN mass makes sense.

either way if you get to much is it going to hurt you? As long as you have enough water to dilute it isnt it ok? I find its hard to get over 200g any way.

[Titus]

Thanks guys ! i'm intrested what do you mean by egg whites? Do I just cook it or boil the everything in the egg except the yolk or do I eat it raw? Or?

[AvgGuy]

Boil enough water in a pot to cover 6 eggs. Get the water to a rolling boil, where the bubbles are coming up from the bottom.

Take whole eggs in the shell and put them gently in the pot using a long spoon, since the water is hot.

Boil for 8 minutes. Some people will say less, but this way your yolk, the center yellow part, is hard.

To eat just peel the shell, throw away the yolk and eat the white part.

Cheap and good protein source with no fat.

[Octagon]

Okay, where to begin...

1) Excess protein is not released through urine, it's stored as fat.

2) No offense but your diet seems really, well, goofy. It kind of looks like you're taking way too much to heart the whole bodybuilding 'eat, eat, eat' mantra and there are two problems with that...

In the first place, unless you've been lifting for a fairly long time and have reached the point where additional gains come *very* slowly you simply don't need thousands and thousands of calories. If you go too crazy with the calories all you're going to do is pack on unnecessary fat along with your muscle gains.

Secondly, and just as importantly, you don't seem to be paying too much attention to the quality of those calories. Frying your eggs? *Thirty* slices of cheese and salami? Are the bagels and the sandwich bread whole wheat or processed white breads? Are any of the various milk products low or non fat? It looks like you're not only overdoing the cals but you're getting a lot of saturated fats and simple carbs and you're skimping on much healthier fruits and vegetables.

3) What's in NLarge?
Serving Size: (g) 152
Servings Per Container: 27
Calories: 620
Total Fat: 6 grams
Saturated Fat: 3 grams
Cholesterol: 110mg
Sodium: 170mg
Total Carbohydrates: 89 grams
Dietary Fiber: 4 grams
Sugars: 23 grams
Protein: 52 grams

Ingredients: Whey Protein Concentrate, Maltodextrin, Fructose, Cocoa Powder (Dutch Process), Natural & Artificial Flavors and Lecithin.

Me? I would say spend your time (not to mention your money) learning how to get the nutrients you need from clean, whole foods. I mean, various protein powders have their advantages (though I'm not a big fan of these sugar-laden 'weight gainers) but they're not miracle workers and they're absolutely not necessary.

4) I'll second the creatine advice. Creatine gets a bad rap when people mindlessly lump it in with steroids and the like but a new lifter of any age won't get much out of it and considering you're still looking at a few years of significant maturation and growth you're much better off avoiding it.

Did I forget anything?

[Titus]

I understand. My diet isn't exactly like that I've kinda given up on the 2 sandwich thing.. guess what I did get tired like my mom said I would of eating it, and I feel full now .. I guess it is sufficient to just eat a lunch! (I never used to eat it before.. was really picky about the food but now I realize its all in my head.. just bite chew and swallow ..all there is too it :P)

My diet does have some carbs and fats in it, but thats on purpose for me i'm skinny I mean im a stick I think i've grown at least one more inch so lets see im 6'1 and 137lbs maybe nearing 139 now..but I havent' checked my weight. Thats skinny for my frame I look really skinny so I was hoping i'd gain some weight with these fats.

Fruits? My mom is a health nerd..lol... I consume 22lbs of apples in a week thats how many I eat .. not to mention the other fruits. But .. i think thats the reason for my lean and healthy body (I think im healthy..lol)

[threenorns]

yeah - constantly running to the toilet would be counted as cardio, lol!

[Titus]

AHH MY LEGS ARE PISSING ME OFF!! GROW WITH THE REST OF THE BODY !! ..

I just bumped up my curling to 25lbs per arm. And I"m squating 50lbs right now..(just started its been a week) And I can do maybe now let me see .. 75 calf raises, and I like pass out from them I can't do calf raises for at least 4 days after. Till it stops hurting thats when I start doing them again. And I see no change at all. Sure its been 2 weeks since I"ve started but.. the rest of my body is getting larger..cept my legs what am I doing wrong?


My biceps are 13inches....I think thats 26 cm.. in circumfrence..thats pretty small. LOL