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Old 22-Nov-05, 06:29 PM   #1
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Tips Please


ok A_welch kindly notified me i'm at the right stage to build before i get obsessed and go annorexic or underweight, i jsut need some tips n hints from the pro's on how i should build effective muscle, i'll get some dumbells and a bar and prob do chin ups and press ups etc. but any good tips or ideas that work for you that maybe i can safely experiment with
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Old 22-Nov-05, 06:35 PM   #2
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Join a gym if its possible. You'll thank me in the long run. If you are dedicated enough, you will get to a point where either you are limited by your equipment so you will have to join a gym to progress, or you'll continue to throw money at a home gym til it far outweighs the cost of a gym anyway.
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Old 22-Nov-05, 06:37 PM   #3
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thanks for the avdvice but the local gym limits age is 18 with parental membership or 20 with single, some punks joined and started F**kin with the equipment and i'm in a pretty rural area so it's the only gym. :| so i think i'll have to wait a few years
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Old 22-Nov-05, 08:30 PM   #4
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just buy a power rack, a adjustable bench, and a 300lb olympic bar set...that way you can squat, deadlift, and bench(icline and flat with adjustable bench)


that would prob cost around $500 im guessing, unless you have a play it again sports place near you
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Old 23-Nov-05, 10:28 AM   #5
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sounds good... $500 is.... about 340 quid.. thats a months wages but still... its for a good cause, plus good ol' christmas is coming up for us kidies although we're not rich i can atleast ask for a lil money to pay for some of it
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Old 23-Nov-05, 11:31 AM   #6
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Old 23-Nov-05, 11:37 AM   #7
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about 340 quid.. thats a months wages but still...
erm.. pleae apply logic.. if i had NO job i would have NO wages.
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Old 23-Nov-05, 03:38 PM   #8
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Old 23-Nov-05, 05:26 PM   #9
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^.^ lol
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Old 23-Nov-05, 07:33 PM   #10
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Sethius,

I think we've been over this before. But my memory fails me sometimes - a byproduct of old age. So maybe it was somebody else.

In a perfect world you should start out with a power rack, a top quality heavy duty bench, and olympic bar, a full set of olympic plates, two olympic adjustable dumbells, a low box for squatting, a deadlift platform, a shrug platform. This isn't a perfect world and most of us aren't wealthy. I certainly am not myself.

For starters, get a decent bench - doesn't have to be top of the line. But one full sized with either arms to support the weight or uprights that you can adjust the pins on for various exercises are a good start. Depending on what you get, expect to spend $40.00 to $100.00 (US).

Next, you need a bar and some plates to fit it. A standard bar ($25.00 new)will do fine for the beginning, but expect to outgrow it in a year or two. I've currently got 3 standard bars left (I buy them at flea markets and yard sales because I've got 400lb of standard plates). One is bent but still usable, one is good, one is starting to bend, the others have ended up at the recycler because they were bent beyond repair. And I'm not a strong person - when you put much more than 200lb on one, they start to bend. At 260 they bend badly, at over 270 they won't last much longer. At 365 - they will bend in half and there you stand with weights on your toes and a bent bar hanging down by your sides.

An olympic bar should last you for the rest of your life - about $45.00.

Whatever bar you get, figure out how much you need to lift - buy that amount of plates with a couple of extras to grow on. Some extra 2.5 and 5lb plates are always needed. Then when you get stronger buy more plates. That way you aren't spending so much money at the start.

Whatever you get, standard or olympic, get adjustable dumbells in the same size that way you can share plates.

I really reccomend starting out with olympic equipment - a few dollars more at the beginning, but then you won't have to replace $300.00 worth of standard plates when you outgrow a standard bar.

If you can't afford a power rack from the beginning, start saving money right away for one. Eventually there will come a time when you can squat more than you can lift from the floor, to your chest, over your head, and settle on your shoulders with control. Then you will need a power rack or squat rack.

Last year, my wife bought me a gold's gym XR-5 olympic bench with the pins that could be placed on either side of the uprights - so it could be used for a squat rack too. An excellent idea - but without a power rack I'm forced to keep my squat weight growing slowly - I can't afford to fail a lift or there I am stuck with a heavy a$$ bar on my shoulders and no where to go with it.

I've finally collected all the steel I need to have a squatting cage built, now all I have to do is get the welder to put it all together for me.

Anyway, you can piece your equipment together a little at a time. I don't know if they have them where you are at, but flea markets and yard sales are excellent places to find used weight equipment.

Best wishes on your training. And finding some good stuff to train with.
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Old 23-Nov-05, 07:40 PM   #11
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thanks that is exactly whaqt i needed great advice, i won't get a power rack because they're far too large, so i think i'll get my dad to knock me up a smaller version (he's a carpenter) he'll make sure it's hefty and not overly large, the advice was well absorbed! i am gunna go with olympic as soon as i get enough dough, and it's 45 quid in england and 45 dolars (29 quid) in america for olympic stuff.. so if i want to save a 10ner i should buy one from america :P
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I wouldn't call it great advice - just economical advice.

No need to pass this time in your life by waiting until you can afford everything we'd all love to have to workout with. Get the basics as you can afford them...then add to it as you are able.
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Old 23-Nov-05, 07:56 PM   #13
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yeh thanks, i'm gunna start with just a bar and dumbells and some plates well of course, but i don't know about a bench i don't have alot of room and my garage is taken up by my dads tools and a van and a land rover :| so no room there either
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I kept mine outside my first serious year. It's been inside less than a year. Just keep a tarp over it when not using it and dress warm.
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