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Old 15-Dec-03, 07:41 AM   #1
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Total Beginner: Need Pro advice


Hi all, been pointed to these terrific forums by another member
I'm looking for some good advice from you guys and girls.
I'm at a complete loss and dont know much about anything todo with weight lifting, exercisizes and all that.

I'm around 5.6ft and around 8.5-9 stonne, so I'm quite small and underweight.
I'm interested in increaseing my shoulder size, my arms and have abit of a lean fix pack stomach to have some self pleasure in myself, but to give me something to work towards.

I'm a very dedicated person and I'm willing to give 100% to my workout and my eating.

I can head to the gym around once or twice a week for 2hrs a time, but need alot of good helpfull advice before i start.

I'm interested in what exercises I can do at home as well.
I've got a pull up bar (In my door frame), as well as a weights bar with around 50LBS of weights. (i think).
Can anyone give me some realistic eating advice, such as a typical days eating.
(This is what I've come up with so far after reading a few things).

I know I need a good mix of protein and carbs, and should eat a good carb meal after a work out. Throught the day I should be aiming to eat 1800 calories in order to gain muscle and around 1.5stonne. (Thats how much im under weight)
How does this food plan sound for the day? (bearing in mind im only small and get full easy :P)

Breakfast - 10am
Shreaded wheat (high in cabrs i believe)
Vitamin C vitamains (Got stay healthy )
Glass of fruit drink

12 Mid day -
Pasta & ???

(Work out here)

4pm
Beans and toast (brown wheat bread)

9-11
Jacket potatoe & ???

Throughout the day I'll drink plenty of water as well.
I need to know about things like Cheese & butter on things, how will they effect me? What about fruit like apples n bannanas mixed in a milk shake?
Thanks.
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Old 17-Dec-03, 06:07 AM   #2
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Bump. Need advice please
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Old 17-Dec-03, 06:44 AM   #3
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I'm unsure as to how to approach your training (I really dislike putting together bodybuilding splits/ routines etc as the bodybuilding ethos differs quite abit from powerlifting/ strongman).

Good exercises for your arms which I'm told by fellow BBers are quite good are: (biceps) barbell/ ez-bar curls, alternating supinated dumbell curls, hammer curls (triceps) skull crushers, tricep push downs (shoulders/ back) military/ front presses, dumbell lateral raises, upright rowing, bent over barbell/ dumbell rowing, T-bar rows, chins/ lateral pulldowns (chest) lncine/ flat/ decline dumbell and/ or barbell presses, dips, pec deck (lol), flyes, cable cross overs

As for the legs, God knows what BBers do, I think maybe: leg press, squats (usually smith or hack squats ), knee extensions, leg curls, leg abduction machine, standing/ sitting calf raises.

And abs: flat/ decline sit ups (weighted is optional), crunches, leg raises (these are the only three which immediately spring to mind, though there are loads)

Each exercise, do 3-4 sets. The rep range for hypertrophy (which is what you're after I think) is IMHO 6-12 reps per set. I would say 2 minutes between sets? It's up to you. Progressive overload techniques might be: more reps or sets, shorter duration between sets, increasing the poundage.

You could split your exercises into this (give you an idea): chest and triceps, back and biceps, arms and shoulders and calfs, chest and back, legs and calfs. It's up to you. The BBers of the forum probably have better splits/ structures.


As for diet, have a range of foods which allows for variety in your daily plans: milk, eggs, yoghurt, butter, cheese, red meat, poultry, fish, whole grains, nuts/ seeds/ pulses, and a large spectrum of different fruits and vegetables.

Cut out the fruit juice (eat the actual fruit rather than drinking "sugary water in a glass" fruit juice), drink minimum of 3L of water daily, and then some more, you may wish to go low fat on milk, cheese, yoghurt and meat, which is acceptable, but I strongly recommend eating whole eggs. Avoid refined, processed foods such as white bread, rice and pasta, refined cereals, etc. Obviously avoid the usual junk food: cakes, biscuits, sweets, soft drinks, takeaway food, fry ups et al.

As a bodybuilder, you may wish to look into supplements such as creatine and protein/ MRP shakes (I'm personally pro-food and anti-supplements, but each to their own as they say).

A typical days eating may be 1'800 - 2'500Kcal, split into 4-6 meals (a meal every 2-3 hours). Your CFP ratios should follow something like this: 55-60 % carbs, 20-25% protein, 15-20% fats.

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Old 17-Dec-03, 07:02 AM   #4
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If you think you are small and under weight and want to add mass.
Make sure you do Dead lift, Military press, Bench press, Squats and a choice of Rows or Lat pull downs or Pull ups! :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Old 17-Dec-03, 07:04 AM   #5
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If you think you are small and under weight and want to add mass.
Make sure you do Dead lift, Military press, Bench press, Squats and a choice of Rows or Lat pull downs or Pull ups! :thumbup: :thumbup:
That's what us sensible powerlifters and strongmen would do. I got the impression that he was training purely for image though

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Old 17-Dec-03, 10:10 AM   #6
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Thanks for the advice guys
Where's a good cheap UK online soruce to buy some creatine etc?
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Old 17-Dec-03, 11:21 AM   #7
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Thanks for the advice guys
Where's a good cheap UK online soruce to buy some creatine etc?
Hmmm... not sure.

Try www.maximuscle.co.uk though. They have a vast amount of products, and a free catalogue.

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Old 17-Dec-03, 02:03 PM   #8
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Thanks. Which do you reccomend I get? (cost is an issue )
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Old 17-Dec-03, 02:07 PM   #9
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Creatine is creatine, go with the cheapest you can find. Dont bother to get any "super dupa creatine delivery system products" they are just charging you £20 more for a shed load of dextrose.
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