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Old 13-May-04, 07:33 PM   #31
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Cliff - Thanks for the additional comments. I'm still reading Ravnskov's book in my spare time. Interesting stuff indeed, however, I'll withhold my comments until I have read all 300 pages.

I did send a note to Daniel Levy, MD, who is the Director of the Framingham Study for NIH (National Institute of Health) Heart, Lung and Blood Institute about Ravnskov's criticism of the Framingham Study. Dr. Levy is in the best position to respond officially to Ravnskov's criticisms of the Framingham Study.
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Old 14-May-04, 10:53 AM   #32
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It is an interesting book. I skimmed through it awhile back after getting it from a friend. Ravnskov gets a bit ridiculus at times, correlating the increase in taxes and tv sets with heart disease, but does this to make the point that such statistics can be very strong in regards to correlation coefficients, but of course completely meaningless in regards to actual connection.

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Old 21-May-04, 11:19 AM   #33
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For anyone interested in the relation of fat and cholesterol to CHD, check out "Types of dietary fat and risk of CHD", Hu, et. al., Journal of ACN, VOl.20, No. 1, 2001.

It is a review of studies to date, and includes distinction between types of fat, including PUFA and saturates, as well as long and short chains of the same type.

Trans fatty acids are examined in detail, and many of the cofactors to the fatty acid and overall health are looked at, the egg cholesterol myth is shatter among other things.

There are still areas which it could be improved, for example battery vs free range eggs, regular butter vs organic pasture butter, etc.

But in any case it really looks hard at the lipid hypothesis and the results are sporadic and contradictory.

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Old 22-May-04, 05:20 PM   #34
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For anyone interested in the relation of fat and cholesterol to CHD, check out "Types of dietary fat and risk of CHD", Hu, et. al., Journal of ACN, VOl.20, No. 1, 2001.

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Cliff - Can you supply a link to this organization and article? Thanks.
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Old 25-May-04, 09:15 AM   #35
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Ref :

http://www.jacn.org/cgi/reprint/20/1/5.pdf

The biggest problem, though is that the way in which the food is prepared isn't examined.

Just consider eating a fresh pepper, compared to one grilled to well done over an open flame.

Eating fresh butter on toast is similarly very different than frying with it on a smoking hot pan.

But in any case, it is one of the better articles I have read in regards to examining the studies to date very critically.

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