Best time to consume fats?

[DustinLati]

Fats being good fats (olive oil, flaxseed oil, ground flaxseeds, almond butter, etc) when is the best time to eat em....or maybe i should ask "when should I avoid them"

Right now i eat some sort of fat at breakfast, 1 hour prior to training, and my 2nd and 3rd real food PWO meals. I avoid fats PWO, my 1st real food PWO meal, and my last meal before bed.

Am i eating the right fats at the right time? Will eating a good fat before lead to fat gain?

[el_diablo0]

I'd go with fats later in the day, more specifically before you head to sleep. Reason being that the caloric intake throughout the day should have carbs in it, and not fat.

[sooner_ed]

Originally Posted by el_diablo0

I'd go with fats later in the day, more specifically before you head to sleep. Reason being that the caloric intake throughout the day should have carbs in it, and not fat.

I disagree. You want fats throughout the day as well for they will help you feel full longer throughout the day. I would make my meals throughout the day consist of protein, carbs, AND fats. But that's just my opinion.

[Lady C]

The only time I would avoid fats is in a PWO shake or meal. Eating them right before bed is ideal to keep the body working while you rest.

[kevdogg]

is 2 tsps of pb and oatmeal 60-90 min's after pwo shake a bad idea?

[el_diablo0]

Originally Posted by kevdogg

is 2 tsps of pb and oatmeal 60-90 min's after pwo shake a bad idea?

that long after a pwo shake is fine

[vegan]

I don't add fats to my diet any time of the day and consume whole foods to get fats packaged by mother nature as they were intended. I try to keep my fat consumption in the 10-15% range rather than the 30% that is typically recommended for a 'low fat' diet. I get my fat consumption down considerably by cooking with non-stick cookware and using organic broth instead of oil.

[Firehawk]

Originally Posted by Lady C

The only time I would avoid fats is in a PWO shake or meal. Eating them right before bed is ideal to keep the body working while you rest.

Why would you avoid fats post workout when that's the time you need the calories most?

[Tuna Fish]

Fat slows digestion and absorption, and therefore not ideal in a post workout drink.

[Firehawk]

Slows it by how much?

[Lady C]

How much is relative to overall output, consumption and body response. In a nutshell - Slower absorption dampens surges in insulin release and slows triglyceride production in the liver. Post-workout you don't want slow insulin release.

Here is some background info. if you want to understand it more.
Fat slows gastric emptying and slows absorption. The appetite is sated more easily and for longer when you eat fat. All the meats we eat have a high percentage of fat. Both the presence of the fat and the fact that the protein is digested and absorbed more slowly contribute to the fact that hunger doesn’t recur as quickly. On the other hand, simple carbohydrates—sugars and white starches—are very quickly digested and appetite returns quickly. The surge of insulin can lead to mild hypoglycemia, which may be another factor in causing one to feel hungry. The gist of the glycemic-index idea is that the longer it takes the carbohydrates to be digested, the lesser the impact on blood sugar and insulin and the healthier the food. Those foods with the highest rating on the glycemic index are some simple sugars, starches and anything made from flour. Green vegetables, beans and whole grains cause a much slower rise in blood sugar because they have fiber, a nondigestible carbohydrate, which slows down digestion and lowers the glycemic index. Protein and fat CAN serve this same purpose. Just be aware of the 9 vs 4 calories per gram ratio. I can eat two grams of protein for the same value as 1 gram of fat.

[Maxgain]

The addition of some liquid fats may not delay absorption as it will just stay on top of your meal

[cursor]

... as it will just stay on top of your meal

Huh?! How so? The human stomach and digestive system is not a stationary beaker sitting on a lab bench.

[Maxgain]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

Gastric emptying and intragastric distribution of lipids in man. A new scintigraphic method of study.

Jian R, Vigneron N, Najean Y, Bernier JJ.

We measured gastric emptying of fat and water from a solid-liquid meal in healthy volunteers using a tubeless scintigraphic method. Selenium-75 glycerol triether, incorporated in butter, was the lipid-phase marker, and technetium-99m, ingested with 250 ml water, the non-lipid phase marker. In seven of these subjects we also measured the gastric emptying of solids and liquids with technetium-99m bound to cooked egg whites as the solid-phase marker and indium-111 ingested with 250 ml water as the marker of the solid and aqueous phases. Emptying and intragastric repartition of each marker were measured by detection of radioactivity changes over the abdominal area using a gamma-camera. The stability and the specificity of the labeling was checked for each marker. Mean gastric emptying rate (expressed as percentage ingested marker emptied per hr) of lipids (17.4 +/- 2.4) was much lower than that of the rest of the meal (34.2 +/- 1.8) and slightly, but significantly, lower than that of solids (22.8 +/- 1.8). An intragastric layering of fat above nonlipids was observed only after the first postprandial hour and remained moderate. Thus, lipids are emptied more slowly than any other component of an ordinary meal, and this is not due only to layering of fat above water.

PMID: 7094791 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

[cursor]

Nice abstract ... but not much detail (of course I understand that it's not the purpose of abstracts to be specific). Any additional studies (and ones that might include data from more than seven subjects)?