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Old 17-Jan-06, 01:05 AM   #1
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Brand New Nutrition Plan


I've had my wife doing my ketogenic plan for a couple of months now. She's had some good results but doesn't like it very much. We've been coupling it with her Max OT workouts and some cardio. She's also been skipping meals when I'm not there to encourage her to eat. And we all know what happens when we skip meals and workout hard. The body stores every bit of fat it can and burns the muscle up for fuel. Damn dumb body.

So asking her for input, I came up with this for her. Hopefully it will be a little easier for her to stick with and actually eat.

I'd like some input from the diet guru folks here who can perhaps give some pointers or tweaks to make it a little better.

Morning – 0800 hours

Special K – High Protein 1 cup, Skim Milk 1 cup
OR
Oatmeal, 2 slices lean ham, 2 whole eggs

Preworkout – 0900 hours

GABA 3g

Workout – 0930 hours

Max OT

Midday – 1200 hours

Chicken or tuna sandwich – 2 pieces (one whole leg quarter skin removed) on whole wheat bread

Afternoon – 1600 hours

Chicken, fish, or beef – with salad or other green veggie (1 cup)
May also have ½ cup brown rice

Cardio – 1700 hours

Exercise bike 15-30 minutes

Evening – 2000 hours

Chicken, fish, or beef – with salad or green veggie (1 cup)

Pre-bed snack – 11:00 hours

2 boiled eggs

Pre-bed supplement – 11:30 hours

GABA 3g

Totals

Cal-989, P-125g (51%), C-71g (25%), F-51%


These are approximate values – the calories will be a little higher because when I don’t prepare it, she’ll likely prepare the fish with butter. Also since she doesn’t go overboard with it, salad dressing is her choice of ANY sugar free dressing (this means more fat and calories – to prevent hunger. She doesn’t care much for beef so it won’t be eaten enough to really change the values that much either.


We put most of the carbohydrates with the meals closer to the workouts and added some intentional fat and protein close to bed to hopefully help with sleep.

Not quite the higher fat, more controlled carbohydrate ketogenic plan that I prefer, but manageable for her. Also not as many salads and green veggies as I would suggest, but again manageable for her. She is after all the one that has to eat it.


The GABA is a requirement for her because of her pituitary infarct - she doesn't care for other suppliments - especially protien powder. Since she's a rank beginner again - there really is no need to start thinking about things like Protein/Dextrose/Creatine/Glutamine mixes.


If this works out well, I'm going to take out the suppliments, increase the salads and veggies to three times a day, the meals to 6 a day, make a strict meal for 1 SINGLE hamburger on a whole wheat bun (non-negotiable) with a salad, and insist on chicken and fish for the others. Include 1 cheat meal each week which will be a massive 1500 calorie mexican resturaunt blowout. Then I'll give it to a friend who did my ketogenic plan for two months. Had a 32 pound loss the first month. Then a 30 pound the second month 309 down to 247 lbs in 2 months. Then he went right back to eating whole pizzas, Mexican resturaunt twice a day, 3 eggs with sausage AND bacon & double hashbrowns for breakfast. Didn't take long to be back up to 335.


OK gurus give me your best advice.


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Old 17-Jan-06, 01:09 AM   #2
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um... less than a thousand calories?

is she really short, perchance?
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Old 17-Jan-06, 01:24 AM   #3
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4' 11". And it's way more calories than she was used to eating.

Me 6' She less than 5' and that's about the long and short of it.
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Old 17-Jan-06, 01:29 AM   #4
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ah - no problem, then, lol. i kinda thought so, because you're pretty savvy about dietary needs.

as for your final comment, there's a circle of hell reserved for ppl like you.
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Yes I'm sure there is. And one day, a short person's ceiling fan will probably get me there sooner. My 5'2" father in law loves to sabotage me with his. He even tried lowering mine one day so he could reach the pull chain.
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Old 17-Jan-06, 10:18 AM   #6
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ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i'm five-two. just for once, i'd like to be the first to know it's raining instead of the first to smell what i've stepped in.
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