Help with Diet.....

[aptar]

Hey all right now I am trying to bulk doing drop sets going low reps (4, 6, 10,) heaviest to lightest I am going 5 days a week

Monday, chest and triceps, Tuesday cardio and abs, Wednesday back and biceps, Thursday legs, Friday Traps and shoulders, then Saturday and Sunday I rest

Well my question is I seem to be getting really toned but I am bulking so very small and slow I am thinking it is my diet so if any one can tell me if I am not eating enough or leavening out certain foods please tell me or give me advise on anything would be highly appreciated

My Stats: Male, age 16, 6 foot, 150 pounds,i think around 12% BF

Thanks all

O btw my family eats all organically and vegetation so it’s hard for me to get meats so vegetarian advice would be very nice


Food item – Calories – protein - Carbs

3 liters of water

Breakfast
Mammoth 2500 Protein Shake 970/ 50/ 152
Flax oil
Greens Plus

First Break
Plain (3 oz) w. Cream Cheese (2 Tbsp) 340/ 12/ 46

Lunch
Pear 97/0.7/ 25
Banana 145/ 1.8/ 33.7

Second Break
Carrots 29/ 0.6/ 6.1
Orange 45/ 0.9/ 11.9

After School
Apple 92/ 0.3/ 23.8

Before Workout
Creatine 5g

After Workout
Creatine 5g
BioProtein bars 320/ 21/ 43


This is what I have every day this other half is after my workout when I get home so I usually switch it up I will list what I usually have

Dinner
Garden Burger 200/ 10/ 28 X 2
Broccoli 44/ 4.5/ 7.8
12 grain whole wheat bun 212/ 7/ 38
Soymilk 108/ 7/ 12

Before Bed
Whole Grain toast 110/ 6/ 19 X 2
Peanut Butter3tablespoons 283/ 11/ 10/ X 2

Total

Calories 3588/ Protein 183/ Carbohydrates 514

[yorkie85]

First of all, your ratio of protein to carbs is way too low. I know that might be hard to adjust if you're a vegetarian, but I'd suggest adding eggs. Also, I'd strongly advise against drop sets. You only need to overload the muscle. By doing drop sets, you're likely to lose muscle tissue since recovery is impaired.

[Lady C]

MY first impression is you are not eating well balanced meals - each one should have protein, carbs and fats. Therefore, pear & banana has lots of carbs but where is your protein source. Like Yourkie says add two or three hard boiled eggs to that and you have a well balanced meal. Also, probably not enough of the right kind of calories to grow (more protein).

[furball]

Originally Posted by Lady C

MY first impression is you are not eating well balanced meals - each one should have protein, carbs and fats. Therefore, pear & banana has lots of carbs but where is your protein source. Like Yourkie says add two or three hard boiled eggs to that and you have a well balanced meal. Also, probably not enough of the right kind of calories to grow (more protein).

Agree with everything but the last comment...He is taking in 183g of protein...at 150 lbs that is more than is needed to grow...I think a regularly balanced diet woul have a suggest protein intake of 60-80g...But to get more than 1g per pound of bodyweight is definitely enough....the nitrogen balance is definitely in the positive state with that kind of intake...

[Lady C]

The 1 gram rule is not a hard science. What really matters is if it is working for him. Sure the numbers might say it is "right" but his results may not. His diet is 20%P/57%C/22%F. To me that seems too low in protein, too high in fat. But he said he was bulking so I gave my input. Everyone uses what works for them.

[aptar]

so more or less protien ther only reason i eat so much friut is because i am at school and it take no time to prepare so its easy to eat fruit on the go but i can make hard boil eggs thanks is there any other vegy supplement i could take to get the right ratio

[Lady C]

I think you need a bit more protein and less fruit, more veggies. (23-25%P)

Tuna sandwich is portable. IMO better than an apple for lunch because it is more filling and adds some good proteins and fats. You are eating 4 servings of fruit and only 2 servings of veggies. I would switch those around. Two servings of fruit and 4 servings of veggies. All kinds of veggies can be eaten between classes. Tomatos, bell pepper strips, cucumbers, celery, carrots. I also snack on cold pre-cooked veggie burgers (Morningstar brand).

[furball]

True everyone is different....and his split of 20/57/22 is more closely related to a typical diet, not a bbing diet....I see your point about more protein...and it definitely won't hurt...But I still feel 183g is enough, as long as you get that much everyday...

Truly I don't bother with calorie counting or anything when I bulk....I just make sure that I eat enough that there is no way in the world I could lose any weight....

[aptar]

thanks all i am going to start eating more vegies and eggs should i increase my carb or cal intake at all

[aptar]

Originally Posted by yorkie85

Also, I'd strongly advise against drop sets. You only need to overload the muscle. By doing drop sets, you're likely to lose muscle tissue since recovery is impaired.

so doing drop sets are bad? I have been told that i should do drop sets to gain muscle/ get bigger

[yorkie85]

Drop sets are high-intensity, and your muscles will feel shattered afterwards. So some people would surmise that this boosts growth. But all training methods should be challenged. One week, I added drop sets for leg curls and leg extensions and this was the one week so far that I actually lost weight. So my advice would be to stick to high weights and low reps.

[Onamission]

You may find this helpful, click on the second link.

Replace the measurements with your own, and you will have a guideline for your macros.

http://www.geocities.com/arelliotness/

[aptar]

what is that??? sorry i don'y really understand the whole bulking ratio and i just enter in my stats and i will caluclate how much cal, protein and carbs i need to take in?

[aptar]

i don't really want to start a new thread but would greens + be enough as far as vitamines go or shouold i take something more?

[Lady C]

It is really hard to get enough of certain vitamins. You have to eat alot of spinach, for example, to get enough iron. I use a multivitamin as an insurance policy. It doesn't fix anything but helps prevent lots of other stuff (like colds or flu).