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Old 30-Jun-04, 06:41 PM   #1
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Skinny guy need help...


Hello to everyone who reads this,
First of all, I just want to point out that I have searched "weight gain" and found few good posts, but most its people who are saying that they are gaining weight and want to loose it.

I personally want to gain weight. It doesnt matter if its muscle or fat or whatever in between. Right now I do not work out. I do however just recently (about a week) started doing pushups again and crunches (alternate every other day). I used to do around 200 or so a day of each. Not at the same time, but maybe 7 or so sets of 30.

Anyways, thats my so called "fitness" report. Now, about the weight.
I am m/22years/5'10/145lbs. Im what you call pretty skinny. I believe I have high metabolism (never been brought up with a doc).
For about a week I have started to try to "really" gain weight. Before it was, whatever I eat, no big deal. I have about 3 meals a day, plus 1 snack or so. I read that I need 5-6 meals a day, and thats what Im planning on doing. I guess to gain weight I would need to eat 15X145lbs + 500 extra cal=2675 cal. Thats just the number I came up with searching the forum today. I could be wrong. I read that you need to multiplay ur weight by 12 to diet, so i figured 15 for gain weight.

This past week Ive been eating 2 whole eggs, or good bowl of cereal with 3.25% milk for breakfast. For launch I would have 2-3 midium potatoes microwaved for about 7 min and than peeled and I added maybe 1 or 2 tblsps of mayo to it. I would eat that with salad, and salad dressing. For dinner, I would eat either 1 pckg of "instant noodles" with added 1 egg. Before bed I would eat maybe good 2 cups of chocolate ice cream.

I have few questions, and not sure how to really ask them. Now that Im typing this out, I see that this is not enough to gain weight, or is it? Also, I heard that potatoes make you loose weight, even though I heard they are high in carbs.
Also, my brother runs every morning, and I would like to also. If someone who is trying to gain weight, would running be alright? Couple miles?
I would like to add brown rice every day to my meals, would that be ok? Ricewise and is it better than white? Also, somewhat of important question. Is good amout of fiber for ppl who want to gain weight k? I love cereal, and in store they sell high fiber cereal, which has good amout of calories, Im curious if thats a no no for a weight gainer.

Please forgive for such a long post, but I REALLY needed to have this said. Because I weight like this (skinny), my self esteem is pretty bad. People say I look 5 years younger than I am. And Im afraid to go after some jobs because I would think people will think that I wont handle the job well because 1. I might look childish to them 2. Im skinny and skinny people should only push carts in grocery stores

Please help me out.
Thank you in advance!
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Old 30-Jun-04, 08:32 PM   #2
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Eat clean and eat often. If you want to pack on some mass, you're going to have to incorporate some weight training into your plan, pushups wont do it after awhile. I'm in a hurry now but I'll try and stop back and help you out. There are many others here who have great advise on this and should be willing to speak up. Best of luck, I've been there bro.
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Old 30-Jun-04, 10:48 PM   #3
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Eat food that is calorie dense, ex. peanut butter, ground beef, Lasagna, Ranch dressing, avocados. There are many other choices you can eat that are dense in calories. Buy some weight gainer and drink a shake after you eat a meal so that you are not full from the shake and you don't eat. Eat right before you go to bed, and if you wake up in the night eat something. Unless you want to look like a skinny person that has a fat gut and a double chin, why don't you join a gym and start doing a real bulking work out program. Something like mon-chest tri, wed-back bi, fri-sholders legs. (there are other options but this is easy to start out with). You are going to want to use enough weight so that it is hard for you and on your 8-10th rep it is very hard. But mainly you just have to eat big and lift big. it is hard for a guy with a high metabolism to gain a lot of weight but it can be done. Good luck.
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Old 01-Jul-04, 06:40 AM   #4
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In order to gain mass (lean muscle and not fat) you need to eat lots of food. It needs to be healthy and not junk food. I know of some people that eat 5000 calories a day. So based on your description, you are lucky if you are eating 2000 calories a day. You need to educate yourself on what you should be eating, when you should eat and how much. People with real high metabolisms sometimes eat every 2 hours. Here are several posts on nutrition. Read through them and see if you can form a diet plan for yourself.

3000-calorie meal plan
Protein, Carbohydrates & Fats
Vegetables
Fruits
Meats
why saturated fats are bad
Will Excess Protein Cause Fat?
Protein & Amino Acids
Vegetable Proteins

And here are a couple on workout. Working out is a key component in gaining muscle and not fat. You should see if you can purchase a gym membership or buy some weights for home. If you don't workout all that eating will turn to fat.
Warm-Up Lifts
Intensity & Progression
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Old 01-Jul-04, 09:01 AM   #5
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Old 01-Jul-04, 02:41 PM   #6
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Few more questions..


Thanx to all so far who replied.
I am curious about fiber. Eating Dietary Fiber Cereal, will make you loose weight or...? It says Dietary, so I am not sure. I know it has good cal and carb numbers. So, Im kinda curious about that. Also, I just read that I need to drink 1 gallon of water. Will it help me gain any weight? Or if it somehow contributes to carbs or protein or fat wise?
And last question. Running about 4 or so miles in the morning.Is that a bad idea for someone who is trying to gain weight? Or will it actually help me?
Thank you guys!
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Old 05-Jul-04, 10:48 AM   #7
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Running is one of the worse things you can do while trying to gain weight, as a reality check, unless you just want to get fat which is pretty easy, trying to gain weight will be very difficult if you are chronically skinny. You are going to have to do serious amounts of resistance training, eat a lot, and be prepared for a long time, like 1-2 years for ~10 lbs of lean body mass, is reasonable for a hard gainer.

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Old 05-Jul-04, 10:54 AM   #8
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Dietary fiber is necessary to keep things moving in the intestines properly. Water keeps you both hydrated and keeps the fiber from binding you. Yes they are both necessary for trying to gain mass, which is not necessarily the same as gaining weight. Gaining weight can mean just putting on more fat. Gaining mass means adding muscle.
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Old 07-Jul-04, 02:03 PM   #9
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'Dietary' just means that it is IN the diet...'diet' being 'what one consumes' not 'method of weight loss'.

1.Do heavy power exercises and only 3 sets of low reps...maybe 3-5.
2.Only work out 3 times per week.
3.Eat often and a lot.
4.Don't do any cardio until you have put on some weight.
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Old 11-Jul-04, 03:20 PM   #10
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why do heavy reps? can you give an explanation for that carcajou? and wh work out 3 times per week?
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Old 11-Jul-04, 07:19 PM   #11
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why do heavy reps? can you give an explanation for that carcajou?
Do heavy reps because
#1 Nothing 'tells' the muscles to grow more than handling the heaviest weights
#2 The heavy power exercises (particularly squat and deadlift) trigger the body to release human growth hormone which will create the proper 'growth environment' in your system.


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and wh work out 3 times per week?
Three times per week as a MAXIMUM...because if you are a 'skinny guy' then you have a high revving metabolism so less (as long as it isn't too little) is better.

If I were skinny and couldn' put on weight...
I'd work out Monday
Routine A
Squats-warm up then 5 sets of as heavy as I could do (beginners beware)
Dips-warm up and then 5 sets of as many as I could do. If I could exceed 12 reps then I'd be hanging weights off of my belt.

Wednesday
Routine B
Deadlift-warm up then 5 sets of as heavy as I could do (beginners beware)
Chin ups-warm up then 5 sets of as heavy as I could do. If I could exceed 12 reps then I'd be hanging weights off of my belt.

Friday
do routine A

Monday-B
Wed-A
Fri-B
Mon-A
...you get the picture
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