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Old 15-Mar-08, 08:45 AM   #1
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Heart Rate for Maximum Benefit


I'm confused about max heart rate and target heart rate. I'm female and 50. Weight train 2x a week, cardio on a stationary bike 6-7 times a week, minimum 30 min.
Can someone explain to me what heart rate I should be shooting for?
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Old 15-Mar-08, 09:33 AM   #2
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Maximum HR means an individual's maximum heart rate they can achieve. In my opinion, it is influenced by your genetics and age. There is a standard formula out there that takes 220 and subtracts your age and that is your maximum heart rate. Applying this formula to me gives me a maximum HR of 167 beats per minute (bpm) yet I know mine is closer to 185 bpm.

The significance of maximum HR is that it is used to measure various targeted HR training zones based on your fitness objectives. I believe it is best to train at all levels of intensity and HR zones for optimum fitness.

What are your fitness goals and do you presently own a HR monitor?
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Old 15-Mar-08, 11:27 AM   #3
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What are your fitness goals and do you presently own a HR monitor?
I don't own a HR monitor and probably won't be buying one any time soon (paying for college). One of my goals is to lose about 40-45 lbs. The other is overall cardiovascular fitness and endurance. You mentioned that you think it's best to train at all levels of intensity and HR zones. How much time on each zone do you think would be optimal?
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Old 15-Mar-08, 12:07 PM   #4
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a HIIT style cardio probably would be best. you could target low-high ranges heart rates, and minimize your time between 15-20 minutes.

I bet P has a better answer tho, I dont do much cardio, this is just knowledge ive acquired by watching and listening to what others say and do.
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Old 15-Mar-08, 12:18 PM   #5
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I don't own a HR monitor and probably won't be buying one any time soon (paying for college). One of my goals is to lose about 40-45 lbs. The other is overall cardiovascular fitness and endurance. You mentioned that you think it's best to train at all levels of intensity and HR zones. How much time on each zone do you think would be optimal?
Then start measuring your pulse by counting the beats for 10 seconds, then multiply that number by 6.

I suggest that you use the standard formula for starters in arriving at a maximum HR which would produce 170bpm for you. As you get a better awareness of your conditioning, you'll be able to modify your training zone.

I suggest you train cardio 3 days per week and you get off your butt from sitting on that stationary bicycle and mix and match your cardio activities, particularly if you want to lose the weight you indicate. 30 minutes or more 6-7 days a week on a stationary bicycle isn't going to get the job done - sorry.

Train one day a week for 30-45 minutes at a steady state at 70-75% of your maximum HR. I suggest the elliptical trainer if your gym has one, otherwise fast walking with the stationary bicycle as a last resort. Try the concept 2 rowing machine if your gym has one. Treadmill walking at an increasing incline is also good too.

Train one day a week for 20-25 minutes at 75-85% of your maximum HR.

Train one day a week for 5-15 minutes at 85-90% of your maximum HR during interval training. I suggest 6-8 rounds of 20 seconds to 1 minute of maximum intensity then recovery for 50% to 100% of that duration for 1 round.

Again mix and match your cardio. You got to get off your butt. Sitting on the stationary bicycle reading magazines isn't going to get the job done. Try heavyhands walking - here is a link for more info:

http://users.erols.com/physical/hvyhnd.htm

And of course, your eating has got to be consistent with your weight loss goals.

Save your money and buy a HR monitor. It is a great investment.
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Old 17-Mar-08, 03:51 PM   #6
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Mr. P, I agree 100% with you about intensity, however, I don't think intensity is determined by which machine you choose to use. The stationary bike can be an intense workout, but only if you make it so. The machines are just tools, and each is only as good as we, the operator, make it.
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but having said that, its much easier to sit on the bike and relax.... while just focusing on pedaling away with your legs using minimal effort..... Id say for someone who is beginning they should use the tread, or elyptical so, they will be standing and wont be comfortable and they can get to know what intensity is.
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but having said that, its much easier to sit on the bike and relax.... while just focusing on pedaling away with your legs using minimal effort..... Id say for someone who is beginning they should use the tread, or elyptical so, they will be standing and wont be comfortable and they can get to know what intensity is.
There's also pace control on the treadmill. Once you set the pace, you can't slow down like you could with a bike or elliptical.
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oh...... doh! you cant just, let me be right once? haha no really I dont do cardio, and Ive never used a bike, so I was just talkin... you know what I like? I like those Ladder climber machines...... man is that a workout in itself or what? that reall pumps the hell out of your calfs and legs, and your heart goes nuts!
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oh...... doh! you cant just, let me be right once?
I was agreeing with you silly
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I was agreeing with you silly
Dude, I think got I aixelsyd... I swear I thought you wrote bike, I didnt see treadmill...
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Old 18-Mar-08, 10:59 AM   #12
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I hate to do this to P and Liftgirl because I like and respect them both (I'm still getting to know Westside, but he and Liftgirl were on the same page), but I'm going to have to disagree with both to a point.

Now what they said is correct, because there's more than one way to skin a cat. Here's what I read about the goals:

1. Lose 40-45 pounds
2. Cardiovascular fitness and endurance

Personally, I would recommend strength training four to six days a week. Thirty minutes a day would suffice if the proper intensity is there. But strength training does not have to be intense each day. The intensity needs to be mixed up.

As far as cardio is concerned, I recommend getting off of the machines and getting outside. Walking, jogging, and running are very suitable options. Here are the reaons:

1. It's too easy to get off of the machines before accomplishing a proper workout because of boredom.
2. Spring is coming up and it's time to get outside because we've been inside all winter.
3. Endurance training, in my opinion, is much more efficient outside.

What I would not worry about is:

1. Heart rate zones

Simply train at a level you feel you can train at on any given day.

Is there a running club in your area? If so, join. Start going to races in your area. They're always on Saturday mornings. Don't let the word "race" scare you. There are many people in your age range who walk. There are people of all ages, sizes, and shapes who "run" these races. There are those who are very competitive and those who go out simply for the exercise and to be social. It's is always easier to exercise for endurance with other people. It's easy to find someone who shares your goals.

The bottom line for reaching your goals is eating right, drinking right, and exercising right. Stay active. I've said this a million times, activity is the key. Just in case you're wondering, I lost 63 pounds myself back in 2004 so I'm speaking from experience.

Running changed my life. Here's what it did for me:

1. Helped me lose 63 pounds (along with the strength training)
2. Joining a running club gave me the opportunity to meet new friends and have a really great time on Saturday mornings
3. Increased my self-esteem
4. Helped me look better
5. Gave me the opportunity to run marathons

I could probably go on with that list. Marathons are not for everyone. That's just what it did for me. Running may not be for you, but most people like to go for a nice brisk walk. It gets you outside into the sunshine and fresh air. During the spring and summer, it's time to get out of the gym for cardio. Endurance training can be a wonderful activity with the right person or people who share your goals.

Just my two cents.
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Old 18-Mar-08, 05:08 PM   #13
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Just my two cents.
That was worth 2million cents! I totally agree. Thats a more practical approach to cardio and endurance.

and it is very lovely to be outside at the parks or running around the city whether its beautiful and sunny, or when its cloudy gloomy and rainy (which I see as beautiful in its own way also)
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