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Old 02-Jun-08, 07:31 PM   #1
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Mission Impossible... Again.


Alright, so I'll start this thread off with background regarding my current physical condition.

I'm a 16 year old male. I stand 5'6" and weight in around 135 pounds. My waist size is 30 inches. According to me, I'm pretty fat and have no muscle whatsoever. However most people I talk to say I'm a "twig" and some even say I have a little bit of muscle. My friends who have actually seen me without my shirt say that what I'm calling fat on my mid-section is actually extra skin. They've used the word "tongue" to describe it. I don't know what they're smoking. In any case, my body is completely different from what it was about 15 months ago.

If memory serves, 15 months ago I weighed over 140 and my waist size was maybe... 34, 35 inches? Not too sure. Being fat was really getting to me, and around May I changed what I was doing. I started doing push-ups and sit-ups at home, skipping dinner, and adopting healthier eating habits. This continued into the summer. During the summer I drank tons of water. I used to have a pitcher sitting by me when I was home and I'd refill it a couple times a day. I ate as little as possible and tried to stick to fruits and vegetables when I did eat. What I ate varied a lot from day to day... Some days I failed dieting and I know there was at least one day my food intake was below 200 calories. 200, not 2000. I also walked quite a bit... maybe 2 hours a day on average, but this once again varied depending on the day. Some days I did nothing, and one day I walked 5 hours. I can't really run, because my nose pretty much refuses to function. My legs don't feel tired, but within a very short distance--maybe a quarter mile, if that--I just can't breathe.

In any case, I went from over 140 pounds to under 120 pounds in roughly 3 or 4 months.

As I stated now, I'm 135 pounds, which is a 15-20 pound weight gain. I don't know how much is muscle and how much is fat. I was only introduced to weight-lifting this year. Here's the relevant (and severely limited) statistics to what I'm lifting now, all in reps of 10 for weighted exercises. This is pretty much the most I can do at that level.

Wide-grip lat pull: 80 pounds
Flat DB press: 40 pounds per hand
Concentration curl: 30 pounds per hand
Tricep pushdown: 40 pounds
Leg press: 200
Leg curl: 60
Push-ups: about 30, depends how I feel.
Sit-ups: Just straight sit-ups I could probably do indefinitely. I did 200 yesterday. If I hold up my legs while I do them I usually reach 50-60 before I have to put my legs down.
Pull-ups: about 5 on the door. This is pretty random for 3 reasons:
***1: My body brushes against the door, so this may make it easier.
***2: A door has sharp edges, which seriously hurts my fingers.
***3: A door can shut on my fingers while doing pull-ups... Bad experience.

I work out in my school's weight room after school when I don't have to go into work. I do all the exercises I can until I get light-headed or can't lift anymore.


So, that's where I am now. The goal is to workout and diet again this summer, hopefully getting my weight back down below 120. I'm not sure if I'll be able to keep it off during the school year, just because the school lunch schedule messes with my eating habits. I'll be quitting my job next year though and that will guarantee that I can lift everyday. The weight room at my school is going to be open for 3.5 hours everyday, and I'll be there whenever I don't have to go to work. Studying is, for once, not my top priority. When it comes to core exercises, I'll probably do sit-ups on my bed at home.

As for diet, I'll mainly stick to eating a bunch of frozen vegetables for breakfast which should keep me filled for awhile and prevent me from going crazy over cereal and worse carbs, which I unfortunately have a huge affinity for. I might start drinking more milk and less water, which is all I drink now outside of school. The fruit and vegetable regimen shouldn't be too awful, as I'm almost a vegetarian by accident; It's avoiding the bread that's the problem.... did I mention pizza is the worst thing ever visited upon teenagers?

So that's my basic plan and goals... Work, eat veggies, drink water, lose 15-20 pounds... again.

If anyone has any advice I'd GREATLY appreciate it. Whether it's a recipe for dieting or advice on a workout regimen, I need all the help I can get. But please explain very thoroughly: I'm a complete ignoramous when it comes to fitness. Thanks for any help you give: It'll be put into practice.

Oh, and a side-note: Anyone know anything about Armageddon? Half the guys in my school are on it and all I know is it's like 2% creotine (spelling?), makes them kinda irritable, and it's made them gain a lot of muscle.
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Old 03-Jun-08, 07:56 AM   #2
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First of all your approach may have worked but it is HIGHLY unhealthy. Your body NEEDS a mix of protein, carbohydrates and fats, yes fats to be healthy. Eating just fruits and veggies means you are not getting ANY fats whatsoever. Not all carbohydrates are BAD for you.

I would do some serious research on how to eat right. Start with these
2000-calorie meal plan
Protein, Carbohydrates & Fats
Vegetables
Fruits
Meats
Turkey & Ham
Fiber Ratio
Fiber info index
Strawberry Shake
Oatmeal
Glycemic index & fruit
Will Excess Protein Cause Fat?
Protein & Amino Acids
Vegetable Proteins
Plant Proteins
Plant Proteins – post index
why saturated fats are bad

Now you should add in a good workout plan. Here are some suggestions.
Workout Timing and Diet Tactics
Workout day vs nonWorkout day
Creating a plan: workout & nutrition

You will not gain muscle without eating properly especially before and after the workout. Creatine is found in protein. You can supplement with it but you MUST have a good diet first or it is wasted cash.
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Old 04-Jun-08, 02:49 PM   #3
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I think you may have a body image issue if you think you are fat at 135lbs and 5'6 (and being a male teenager too)

I am sure that if you ate well (enough calories, enough protein, carbs & fats which you are not getting on your 'fruit & veg' plan) and lifted heavy/worked out intensly, you would perhaps not lose weight, but would undergo a body recomposition, gaining muscle and loosing fat.

Then perhaps you would not mind so much weighing 135lbs (which is quite light for your height)

if you aren't against meat, eat it. Also drink plenty of whole milk if you can.

It sounds to me like you have to make some big changes!

Do some research.

oh and welcome to DF, good luck, let us know how it is going for you!
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Old 04-Jun-08, 09:38 PM   #4
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Hey, thanks a lot for the replies guys. Tomorrow's my last day of finals and all of the plan pretty much starts up Monday... No school in the way at last!

I took a look at all of the links that were posted. I had no idea that timing of meals was so important. My school weight room is going to be open from 10:30-12:00 and from 4:00-6:00, so I suppose whether or not I work out during those periods will determine what I eat for lunch or dinner. I'll try to shift my cereal and fruit eating to the morning too... for some reason I end up really liking that stuff when I'm up late. Probably because I'm too lazy to put something in the microwave :P

About the whole milk, I'm not sure I can pull that off. I've been drinking skim and water for so long it just doesn't taste right. But I'll definitely start adding meat to pre/post-workout meals.

I'll probably be referencing back here quite a bit during the summer, in case I ever forget things. If anything much changes, I'll let you know. And thanks again, really.
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Old 05-Jun-08, 12:41 AM   #5
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LadyC & Minime are spot on. only eating fruits/veggies alone is a very unhealthy/inefficient way of loosing bodyfat, not to mention all the lean body-mass you will lose at the same time. long term it could be quite dangerous to your overal health.

small, yet consistant quality meals with a good ratio of Protiens/Fats/Carbs every few hours is going to benefit your needs more than starvation...

fat does not make you fat. your body cant make its own fats out of almost any type of food you consume regardless or how much fat you are eating. just keep your meals clean, small, and frequent; avoid binge eating large amounts of food. get a consistant workout program that works all major muscle groups and you will be well on your way!
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