Pull Ups/ Chin ups

[scott1968s]

chins are my favorite exercise. When I do back and Bis.

Deadlifts x5
Bend rowsx3
Chins--a great transition into Bis I do 5x5 as many as I can do.
barbell curls x3
preacher x 3

Scott

[arbit]

Originally Posted by monsta

hmmm, I know all the books say wide grip.. but if you think about it it dont make much sense. You should always work in the full range of motion. The prime mover for a pull/chin up is the lats, the full range of motion is arm above your head to arm beside your side. wide grip means that your starting from less than full range. I know their harder, but that is because of the geometry not because your using more muscle.. Also start the movement with a reverse shrug (depress the scapula) before you bend your elbows, you will feel it more.

That makes sense, I've read the same thing is a couple of places.

[Ronnie Boy]

If you lift yourself with a wide grip, it will develop your lats, for men is a great exercise as it develops the v-shape on your back,

using a normal grip, also you can work your shoulders and upper back

if you use a reverse grip, it is very good for the biceps and arms,

you can also work your abs, by bringing your knees to your chest and making sure to bend at your hips, a bit like the roman chair,

if in doubt, ask one of your personal trainers

RB

[blumsky]

wide grip pull ups are nonsense. ask any rock climber. they are hell on your joints and don't work the full range of motion. my personal experience is your v taper will explode if you stick with a slightly wider than shoulder width grip. varying over and underhand also helps. keep it int he full range of motion, that's what's important.

[Cort]

Great for back, I mean before I started doin 'em...no back at all...now about 2 months later its like ripped compared to before. For grip I do shoulder width, maybe a bit wider...bout 5-6 sets of 12. Start from hanging, don't cheat. Start from bottom, pull yourself up, go all the way back down, repeat. Just do as many proper ones as you can and you get better at 'em

Cute link btw lol, she can do as many as I could do when I was fat 3 years ago in PE (14 year old shown up by a 3 year old) 17 now though...

Before doing 'em in the gym I used my total gym that my parents bought a few years back (yay it wasn't a TOTAL waste of money...almost though...) Basically there is a bar at the top...I just stuck it at highest slant and did as many as I could like that. It is a good way to build up the muscle a bit if you don't have any yet.

[Neilio]

[font=Comic Sans MS][/color]Hey im kinda confused with the grip terms , if your palm is facing toward your face, is that closed grip or what ? I Just did 20 chinups, no break in beetween, and im 13, i also weigh 145. Is that good?

[scott1968s]

Originally Posted by Neilio

[font=Comic Sans MS][/color]Hey im kinda confused with the grip terms , if your palm is facing toward your face, is that closed grip or what ? I Just did 20 chinups, no break in beetween, and im 13, i also weigh 145. Is that good?

If your palms are facing toward your face those are chin ups or chins
if your palms are facing away from your face those are pull ups.

The grip term is how "close" your hands are to each other. Close grip chins your hands will be a few inches apart on the bar, nuetral grip your hands are at shoulders width and wide grip is when your hands are spread the furthest apart.
Most pull ups are done with your arms wider than your shoulders width. It may be pretty ackward otherwise.

20 chins is a good number at any age. Personally I'd rather add weight using a chained weight belt and do less repetitions (reps).

scott

[Neilio]

Thanks man, I was really confused. Thanks for clearing it up. Actually now that you said it, they r pull ups rather than chin ups, my palm was facing towards me. SInce my bar is a peice of pipe running through 2 rafters in my basement, there is not a lot of head room, so i can only get up to my chin. Me and my dad r gonna build one though, its definatly gonna be lower. Thanks for ur help!

[Scotl]

just like the boy b4 im doin about 30 at one time without breaking, is this good for me or should i be doing more like 3x10 reps?
thanks
scotl

[scott1968s]

Originally Posted by Scotl

just like the boy b4 im doin about 30 at one time without breaking, is this good for me or should i be doing more like 3x10 reps?
thanks
scotl

30 is a really good amount of pull ups or chins. As for 3 x 10 thats up to you. I feel if you do 30 you should be adding weight to pulls/chins. Hang plates or barbells from your weight belt. One guy at my gym adds plates to a backpack.
I always shoot to do as many as I can, rather that a set amounts IE: 3 x 10, do 3 sets of as many as you can with additional weight.

Scott

[Scotl]

cheers for the reply, id better start addin sum weights then
scotl