running shoes

[frankieny]

my foot doc told me i have high arches and my foot tends to supinate as opposed to be a pronator or being neutral.

what brand and model # would you recommend for me, i run on a black rubber high school track 20 miles a week?

[Lee J B]

The new puma's that just came out here are good, they are like ready to be molded top of the range running shoe, I passed them and passed the £190 they cost though.

[sami]

Originally Posted by frankieny

my foot doc told me i have high arches and my foot tends to supinate as opposed to be a pronator or being neutral.

what brand and model # would you recommend for me, i run on a black rubber high school track 20 miles a week?

I think you need a motion-control shoe, I recomend Mizuno try at www.mizuno.com or even better go to a speciality running store they will know what you need

[CJNY]

Originally Posted by sami

I think you need a motion-control shoe, I recomend Mizuno try at www.mizuno.com or even better go to a speciality running store they will know what you need

Absolutely incorrect - motion control shoes are for pronators. These people usually have low arches.

Frankie, it sounds like you need what is usually referred to as a cushioned shoe. They tend to be flexible and encourage more pronation, canceling out your supination tendency. All major shoe manufacturers have cushioned shoes. Choosing between them is best made according to how well they fit. There is simply no substitute for going to a store and trying them on.

If you want help knowing which models are classed as cushioned shoes, try Runnersworld.com and click on the "shoe finder" link.

[Shmackey]

What CJNY said.

[monsta]

I have high arches as well. I was told by the podiatrist that what is needed are inserts for ya shoes. You can get custom made ones, they're expensive but will obviously fit your indervidal foot best. Then ya can get ones that they sell at shoe and sport shops. Also with some if the better shoes , a small insert that ya slip under the liner will come with the em.
whatever you do, dont do to much training till its sorted. As well as ankles, it can affect knees, hips and throw ya whole body out of alignment

[sillygirl]

What's the difference between supinate, pronate, or nuetral?

I'm having a hard time. About 30 minutes into cardio, if I'm doing something like the elliptical or the stairclimber, my feet start to tingle. I'm fine if I'm running or on something I'm constantly switching the intensity [going forwards, backwards, faster, slower, like a crosstrainer]. At first it completely freaked me out, but my twin sister admits to the exact same thing. It's worse with some shoes I wear than with others, but I've never found a shoe where it doesn't completely happen.

Anyone have any suggestions?

[frankieny]

Originally Posted by sillygirl

What's the difference between supinate, pronate, or nuetral?

I'm having a hard time. About 30 minutes into cardio, if I'm doing something like the elliptical or the stairclimber, my feet start to tingle. I'm fine if I'm running or on something I'm constantly switching the intensity [going forwards, backwards, faster, slower, like a crosstrainer]. At first it completely freaked me out, but my twin sister admits to the exact same thing. It's worse with some shoes I wear than with others, but I've never found a shoe where it doesn't completely happen.

Anyone have any suggestions?

yes i looked on runners world thamks very much, they also mentioned a cusioned shoe for my foot type, with a single density midsole, they rated the nike shox at 150 buks as good, also addidas, saucony, etc

should i try a otc show insole, are they better than the insoles that come with the shoe, and do i put it in over the original insole or take the original out and replace it with the otc one?

[CJNY]

Not everybody with a high arch needs more support than the shoe provides but aftermarket insoles help some people quite a lot. Some don't need them at all. I won't run without them, but that's doesn't say anything about you and the shoes you select. It is certainly cheaper to do without if you can.

If you get a full length insole it is common to remove the liner that comes with the shoe. Some are only 3/4 length and work better installed under the shoe's original liner. Fit is the most important determining factor. It can get to tight in there if you add too much thickness.

[CJNY]

Originally Posted by sillygirl

What's the difference between supinate, pronate, or nuetral?

I'm having a hard time. About 30 minutes into cardio, if I'm doing something like the elliptical or the stairclimber, my feet start to tingle. I'm fine if I'm running or on something I'm constantly switching the intensity [going forwards, backwards, faster, slower, like a crosstrainer]. At first it completely freaked me out, but my twin sister admits to the exact same thing. It's worse with some shoes I wear than with others, but I've never found a shoe where it doesn't completely happen.

Anyone have any suggestions?

What is referred to as neutral foot mechanics is when you run with your toes pointing pretty much in the direction you are moving. The neutral runner strikes the ground first with the outer edge of the heel and rolls inward a bit as the rest of the foot falls. This action is actually a small amount of pronation and is a good thing - it reduces the shock transmitted up the leg to the knee and rest of the body.

Over-pronators (those best suited to motion control shoes) exaggerate the "outward landing - rolling inward" action and this can cause problems. Their toes end up pointing outwards as they run as compared to their line of forward travel.

Supinators (or under-pronators) have a very rigid foot and tend to land hard on the heel and actuall roll their foot outward, taking off on the outside of the toe-end.

The right shoe can go a long way toward encouraging your mechanics toward neutral. This is why most people should go to a specialty running shoe store if they plan to run much. It is also why runners get upset with shoe manufacturers for constantly changing their shoe designs every year - most would rather keep buying what works for them.

The tingling sounds like what cyclists call "hot foot", where the nerves of the foot are subjected to nearly constant pressure on the balls of the feet. Over-pronators tend to get it more often than neutral or underpronators. It is aggravated by shoes that are too tight, especially in the toe-box area (you should be able to freely wiggle your toes), and might be worse on these machines for a couple of reasons:

1) They often force your feet to be a certain width apart, which may not fit your body well, especially small women, forcing your weight onto the ball of your foot.

2) The pressure on the foot may be fairly continuous as compared to running where the foot is airborne over half the time.

Some cyclists report that inserts like those described in this thread help hot foot. Others resort to custom made (big $) orthotic inserts. Prevention of this is also why cycling shoes tend to have stiff soles, too stiff, in fact, for comfortable walking (old designs were actually once made with wooden soles).

[mixtic187]

I'm an overpronator and i have high arches.. and the only shoes that work for me are NewBalance.. Nike made my feet hurt.. most ppl i know tend to agree with me, but its good to try on a few different brands to find out..

[Vizious]

Try visiting a running specialty shop, if there is one near you...

There is a shop near where I live called Run With Us....they check if you have pronation/supination and suggest the right shoe for you, you can even "test drive" shoes by runnin around the block...if you're uncertain about ur feet, a running store = best way to go...

[frankieny]

Originally Posted by Vizious

Try visiting a running specialty shop, if there is one near you...

There is a shop near where I live called Run With Us....they check if you have pronation/supination and suggest the right shoe for you, you can even "test drive" shoes by runnin around the block...if you're uncertain about ur feet, a running store = best way to go...

yeah i went to a running shop and the kid gave me a shoe for a pronator and my foot supinates go figure, i goota go to a different store that has more knowledgeable staff