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Old 30-Jul-03, 02:41 PM   #1
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Shoulder Presses - Barbell, DB, Arnold ???

Hi again guys,

I have to admit, I love barbell shoulder presses, in front and behind the neck ( though if I do 2 sets in front, I only do 1 behind ). I've never tried dumbell presses, and I've no idea what ' Arnold presses ' are. As stated before, right now I'm looking for maximum mass gains. Any advice on which presses ( barbell in front, barbell in back, etc ) are known to bring better results?
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Old 30-Jul-03, 02:46 PM   #2
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I wouldn't touch behind-the-neck barbell presses unless you want to destroy your rotator cuffs.

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Old 30-Jul-03, 02:57 PM   #3
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I'm with Jock on this. The Arnold presses hurt my rotators a bit too. I do db shoulder presses, and they're great because they use a HUGE amount of stabilizer muscles in order to keep correct form. I do them seated usually.
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Old 30-Jul-03, 03:53 PM   #4
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I agree with the above statements about behind the neck barbell presses being bad for the shoulders. I personally love DB shoulder presses, but Arnold Presses kinda tweak my shoulder too. If you're looking for delt work, try DB side raises, DB rear lat raises, or even DB upright rows. The raises are used by alot of bodybuilders to get those big cannonball delts. Arnold does them in "pumping iron" and Ronnie Coleman does them in "the unbelievable".

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Old 30-Jul-03, 03:53 PM   #5
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Arnold's all the way here.
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Old 30-Jul-03, 04:44 PM   #6
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Thanks for the replies.

Anyone got any links to illustrate the ' Arnold ' presses?
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Old 30-Jul-03, 04:52 PM   #7
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Start with your palms facing inwards towards your head, then as you move your arms up above your head twist your hands and arm so that your palms face outwards..... not got a link but thats how to do it.
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Old 30-Jul-03, 04:54 PM   #8
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Turn the palms out to the front, or side? I think I've seen this before.
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I don't have any problems with behind the neck (or as we call them, military) presses. They don't bother my shoulders at all
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Old 31-Jul-03, 05:41 AM   #10
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Turn palms out to front.
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Old 31-Jul-03, 08:56 AM   #11
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http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...noldPress.html

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Old 31-Jul-03, 09:04 AM   #12
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Oh - that's what I do. I didn't know they had a fancy name. I thought those were just regular shoulder presses. Geeze, I need to brush up on my exercise names .
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I don't have any problems with behind the neck (or as we call them, military) presses. They don't bother my shoulders at all
Even if they're not hurting your shoulders now, behind the neck pressing is widely known to cause problems. Be careful.
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I just started doing them a week ago , i love them !
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Turn palms out to front.
what does the arnold presses isolate in the shoulder, or is it just another variation for working the shoulders
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