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Old 24-Jan-07, 06:09 PM   #1
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I need help with what to do

I am 5'11 and weigh 195 pounds

My workout program is a lot of cardio and I lift some weights

Im looking for a good way to lose weight relatively fast before the summer right now iI am persuing a protein no carb diet

I would like to know what a good workout and diet plan would be good for me and wondering if I have the right one plz help
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Old 24-Jan-07, 08:45 PM   #2
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Much more information is needed before anybody can help. Describe the workout program and diet in detail, and give us more information about yourself and your goals.
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Old 25-Jan-07, 01:49 PM   #3
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As tim said, we need more information. But I will tell you now that a no carb diet will not work. Carbs are not our enemy!!
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Old 25-Jan-07, 01:57 PM   #4
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A low carb diet will work fine if it is part of a lifelong nutrition plan and you move from it to timed carbs, then to good carbs. It is not a crash diet to be used for quick weight loss then go right back to eating the way you did before. Lots of people into fitness are against them simply because they don't truly understand endocrinology. I've had many doctors tell me they were terribly unhealthy then when I reminded them of how the endocrine system works, explained the various transitions one goes through to get to a "healthy" eating plan, and they saw how their own patients who took my reccomendations over theirs improved their health, glucose management, cardiac profile... Then they saw the way too.

One warning, a low carb diet is NOT a high protein diet unless you want to get catabolic and lose muscle and if you have any renal impairment get gout. It is a moderate protein diet. If you want to go to the trouble, time, and effort to do it right along with transitioning slowly from it to a healthy, sustainable, way of life post your stats and I'll help you.

They aren't for everyone, but do work when done right. I changed myself from a 300lb slob to a 170lb triathlete (finished last but still finished) with one. Done wrong, you won't get much benefit.
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Old 26-Jan-07, 12:47 PM   #5
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A true no carb diet would mean no fruits or veggies, depriving your body of much-needed nutrition.

Please give us an example day of exactly what you eat and tell us more about your exercise routine. We can certainly help you, but we need more info to do so.
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Old 30-Jan-07, 04:37 PM   #6
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Dont do a no carb diet,they dont work longterm,i tried and felt ill after 5 days.Just healthy eating,cutting out things like fast food, sweets,crisps,sugar,
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Old 30-Jan-07, 05:02 PM   #7
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Dont do a no carb diet,they dont work longterm,i tried and felt ill after 5 days.Just healthy eating,cutting out things like fast food, sweets,crisps,sugar,
They are fine if part of a lifetime plan, which all sensible low or no carb diets are. They are not for life. They are an adjunct to control blood sugar levels so you can burn fat without catabolizing muscle. The indirect side effect is diminishing symptoms from DMII for many of us, they also seem to reduce cardiac risk factors when done properly.

One does have to transition from them to a timed carb way of eating then to a higher carb, lower fat way of eating to maintain results. The feeling bad part is your body missing it's "sugar fix". As is the "brain fog" that some complain of. This usually begins sometime between three days and one week and lasts between three and seven days. As the body transitions into ketosis (a fat burning metabolism) as opposed to a sugar burning metabolism one begins to feel better.

This is the way I lost from 300lbs at 60+% body fat to 170lbs. To gain back up to 200ish without getting too fat, I did have to transition back to a "bodybuilder's diet".

Remember carbs aren't the devil and fat isn't the devil. Both have a part to play in a balanced way of life and sometimes we need more of one and less of the other to get the results we seek.
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Remember carbs aren't the devil and fat isn't the devil. Both have a part to play in a balanced way of life and sometimes we need more of one and less of the other to get the results we seek.
More or less at times, yes, but never absolutely none, IMO.
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Old 31-Jan-07, 12:40 PM   #9
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More or less at times, yes, but never absolutely none, IMO.
True, but it is actually nearly impossible to get absolutely none. The body will know what to do with the things you eat to make it's fuel.

Guess what it does with excess protein? Converts to carbohydrate (glucose for fuel).

Guess what it does with excess fat? Yep, also converts it to energy.

What does it do with excess energy? You got it - stores it as fat. If the goal is to burn fat so we can get into a healthier way of life, why do a low fat, low calorie diet where you will feel hungry, deprived, and fail.

Is it good to do it totally NO CARB? No it isn't that's why I always reccomend the green vegetables in nearly unlimited amounts that are low calorie, low carb, and high fiber. If someone who is actually fat does this, they will burn fat, usually lower their bad cholesterol, raise their good cholesterol, and control their blood sugar. They can't help but burn body fat for fuel. The thing that some "experts" say "it's all water loss" is absolute BS. I had one at the county extension office try to tell me that once when she was doing a nutrition seminar. I asked her to do some math. I said, "take 300lbs at 60% body fat." She said, "that's 180lbs of fat. Then I asked her what 170lbs at 15% body fat was. She said, "25.5lbs of fat." Then I asked her what 185lbs at 10% was. She said, "18.25lbs of fat."

I said, "so by doing low carb for over a year, I changed myself from 180lbs of fat to 18.25 lbs of fat and changed from 120lbs of FFM to 166.5lbs of FFM and you are going to sit there and tell these people that all I did was lose a little water weight?"

Is it sustainable for a lifetime? No, but it is one of many useful ways to control body fat levels from time to time, control blood sugar levels from time to time, and adjust our body to enable it to maintain health and fitness through a balanced diet with exercise. Much like the runner gets a rapid heartrate while running, when she sleeps and it slows to 40 or 50 beats per minute, giving the heart a break, the pancreas can use a rest from constantly producing insulin, the receptors that take insulin to move glucose around can use a break so we don't become insulin resistant.

What has the last 20 years of preaching lowfat, lowfat, lowfat as the only approach led to? More obesity than ever before, consumption of too much sugar because when fat is removed from processed foods it tastes bad so sugar is added, insulin resistance, and a diabetes epidemic. Even children are getting adult onset (DMII) diabetes now at alarming rates.

Balance is the key, but if you find yourself in a crisis of obesity and the health problems it will lead to, a "shortcut" to a balanced way of life as the first step is not a bad thing. That's what low carb is. Even Dr. Atkins promoted a return to higher carb, lower fat eating gradually over time once the weight was off (most people don't actually know this because they never actually took the time to read his books". His method was was a bit different from mine but effective (and better known) nonetheless.

As I've stated probably a couple of hundred times on this forum though, if you "crash it off" this way then go back to pizza and beer every night you will immediately get fat again, just like with any other method.
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Old 01-Feb-07, 05:33 PM   #10
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I don't disagree with you, andy. I took the OP at her word when she said no carb. The OP probably actually meant low carb. All I was saying is that if she is truly on a no-carb whatsoever diet, that would mean no fruits or veggies, which we all know are important.

Hope that clears up my meaning a bit.
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I just hope they are successful with however they choose to go about it. That's why we discuss these things so new ones can see the pros and cons of each plan, what was successful for this one and what different thing worked for that one. It does help when one is making an informed decision.
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