Weight loss and Weight training

lynn · 11-Mar-03, 01:41 PM

I have about 70lbs to lose. I am currently doing 30 to 45 minutes of cardio (treadmill, eclipse or bike) and have 4 days where I concentrate on certain body parts on certain days. I am changing my eating habits. I was working out yesterday and a guy who was training others (I don't know what his qualifications are) told me that if he was training me that he would not let me touch a weight, I would be doing nothing but cardio because I am building muscle under the fat and that when I lose the fat I will lose the muscle also. Is this true? I thought if I did cardio and weight training along with the diet that the balance would be their and I would be losing and shaping at the same time, not to mention some of the other benefits that weight training gives you. Am I incorrect in my thinking?

NateDogg · 11-Mar-03, 02:09 PM

You are pretty much correct, and he is dead wrong. If you "cut" correctly, you can keep most of the muscle you have gained.

lynn · 11-Mar-03, 04:02 PM

Thanks NateDogg. Even though I try not to let what others say to me bother me, that worried me. One of the reasons I joined the gym was to take advantage of all the equipment and I did not want to think I was sabatoging my results.

**cursor** · 11-Mar-03, 04:28 PM

Always shoot for muscle. Not only will its development make you more energetic and mobile, but it will also (because it's so metabolically active) contribute to burning the fat that surrounds it. Diet and resistance training...

stacy · 21-Mar-03, 02:12 PM

i'm trying to lose weight too and i'm just going to start doing 40 min of cardio 4 days per week and only 2 days of lifting (one upper and one lower day). i love to lift but i've got good muscle tone...unfortunately the fat isn't going fast enough i need to rev up the burning which i know muscle does but i know a lot of lifters don't do enough cardio..

**Jaster** · 23-Mar-03, 12:28 PM

I'll take lifting over cardio any day!

**cursor** · 23-Mar-03, 01:08 PM

Just get rid of that gas-powered, noise-making lawn mower and get a simple, mechanical hand-push mower. Seriously, it'll do both you and the rest of the world some serious good.

rickym78 · 23-Mar-03, 02:44 PM

hi new here,

and just wanted to confirm what I have been reading thus far,

if I understand correctly, as long as you cut properly you won't loose any muscle gained while training and doing cardio.

now here is my question, what would be the ideal combination of Cardio/weights to get noticeable results? assuming that you go 3-4 times a week for at least 1 hour each time?

Thanks,

NateDogg · 23-Mar-03, 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by rickym78
hi new here,

and just wanted to confirm what I have been reading thus far,

if I understand correctly, as long as you cut properly you won't loose any muscle gained while training and doing cardio.

***You will probably lose some muscle when cutting. Minimize this loss by trying not to lose more than 1-15. lbs of body weight per week.

now here is my question, what would be the ideal combination of Cardio/weights to get noticeable results? assuming that you go 3-4 times a week for at least 1 hour each time?

***Sorry, but there is no ideal combination that will work for everyone. Weight training and fitness in general is very much individual trial and error. Personally, and I am going to be soon starting my first "cut" I am not going to be altering my training at all. I will probably add some cardio, but will weight train exactly the same as when I am "bulking" or "maintaining." I will however, adjust my diet based on how much weight I am losing per week, and how I look and feel.

Thanks,

rickym78 · 23-Mar-03, 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by NateDogg
***You will probably lose some muscle when cutting. Minimize this loss by trying not to lose more than 1-15. lbs of body weight per week.
***Sorry, but there is no ideal combination that will work for everyone. Weight training and fitness in general is very much individual trial and error. Personally, and I am going to be soon starting my first "cut" I am not going to be altering my training at all. I will probably add some cardio, but will weight train exactly the same as when I am "bulking" or "maintaining." I will however, adjust my diet based on how much weight I am losing per week, and how I look and feel.

Thanks nate for your reply, what I meant to say is there a prefered "order" if you want for lack of a better term, as to when you should be weight lifting and when you should be doing Cardio?

The reason I ask is because both myself and my wife are working out, and the reason she finally joined the gym is she has been following a diet(only diet) to loose weight, and she had reached a plateau. now I am trying to work with her to find some balance for her to be able to loose weight and hopefully notice the results....for her muscle loss is not a big issue at this point...she is more worried about body fat.

and to avoid anyone else repeating it, I know that building muscles helps to burn fat, but as I am sure amny of you can relate she would like to see the weight loss quickly....

and I understand that the results won't be the same for everyone, but just looking for some tips/guides in the right direction?

Thanks.

NateDogg · 24-Mar-03, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by rickym78
Thanks nate for your reply, what I meant to say is there a prefered "order" if you want for lack of a better term, as to when you should be weight lifting and when you should be doing Cardio?

***Personally I usually prefer to do cardio on off days. HIIT cardio. Which basically means go hard for a very short interval, then rest or go slow for a short interval, repeat for however long you want. You can find more on that with a search I'm sure.

and to avoid anyone else repeating it, I know that building muscles helps to burn fat, but as I am sure amny of you can relate she would like to see the weight loss quickly....

***See above. Also, diet is the biggest contributor to weight loss.