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26-Apr-06, 12:22 PM
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Location: Just outside NYC. 9/11 Never forget, NEVER FORGIVE
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United 93 From a Family member....
Well guys,… I consider you guys friends so I wanted to share this with you…
You know how they say we all have good days and bad days.
Well today was a bad day. It’s funny how I knew it was coming and yet it seems to have blind-sided me. I was prepared but yet I had no idea. This morning I almost did not get out of bed. Why? You probably are asking. Did I get sick?
No. It was because I had to turn off the TV.
What? You may be asking now.
Well I had to just say “Enough I get it a movie is opening I get it.”
Yes United 93 starts showing tonight and the press just won’t let me forget it.
Now don’t get me wrong I hear it was done well. I hear it is very respectful. I hear that they are saying every American should go see it. ......
I agree.
Remember this I don’t want America to forget what happened on that dark day in 2001.
It smashed my family it, It changed this country, It changed the person I am and will be.
But I don’t need to have it rammed down my throat.
Will I see it?
I know a lot of people are probably wondering this but are afraid to ask me.
Yes, Yes I will. But I can not see it in a theater with strangers. I will watch the DVD. I may not make it all the way through in one sitting but that’s up to me. This is why I will not see it in the theaters.
I have to keep asking myself am I really all that tough? I mean I have never been afraid to die. I have done many crazy things in my life and hell I now run in to burning buildings (Sometimes with disregard for myself - Just don’t tell my wife)
Why then do I hurt today almost as much as I did that dark day in 2001.
It’s just that there is a movie opening today or so I am told by the press.
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26-Apr-06, 01:29 PM
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I won't be seeing it. No disrespect intended to the family members who lost loved ones that horrible day. There were victims that day. There were heros that day. I will not sh*t on their memory by going to see a movie about it. Movies are for entertainment - nothing about that day has been or ever will be for entertainment. Nothing about that day has been or ever will be for lining the pockets of someone who wants to make a movie.
Besides, you want to see a redneck hillbilly who has strong southern American values (including men don't cry), as mentally/emotionally tough as you can get, sometimes on rare occasions physically tough too cry like a baby girl - then just sit me down in front of that movie screen.
In my opinion 9/11, the WTC, and United 93 are off limits when it comes to making movies. The people who were victims that day and the ones who were heroes that day deserve better.
Of course someone can make any movie they want - but I won't be watching it.
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26-Apr-06, 02:08 PM
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Its too soon.
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Originally Posted by a_welch503
as mentally/emotionally tough as you can get, sometimes on rare occasions physically tough too cry like a baby girl - then just sit me down in front of that movie screen.
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Ditto.
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26-Apr-06, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by a_welch503
I won't be seeing it. No disrespect intended to the family members who lost loved ones that horrible day. There were victims that day. There were heros that day. I will not sh*t on their memory by going to see a movie about it. Movies are for entertainment - nothing about that day has been or ever will be for entertainment. Nothing about that day has been or ever will be for lining the pockets of someone who wants to make a movie.
Besides, you want to see a redneck hillbilly who has strong southern American values (including men don't cry), as mentally/emotionally tough as you can get, sometimes on rare occasions physically tough too cry like a baby girl - then just sit me down in front of that movie screen.
In my opinion 9/11, the WTC, and United 93 are off limits when it comes to making movies. The people who were victims that day and the ones who were heroes that day deserve better.
Of course someone can make any movie they want - but I won't be watching it.
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Awesome points Welch---
I definitely won't see it in theaters and there is a possibility I would see it on DVD, but then again, I dunno. While it is true we should never forget that day, we should however, remember it in our own ways and in our own hearts. By the media constantly bringing it back up through movies, documentaries, etc., it is just the wrong way to "not forget". I don't want to see the images of that day. I know what happened, we all know what happened, we should remember the people who lost their lives, their families, and the heroes of that day, but we shouldn't have to remember them by being forcefed all those images from that day.
I was there, in manhattan that day, the images are burned into my memory already forever, I don't need to see it again in a movie. Personally if I were a family memeber of anyone who was affected by this day I would be pissed off as all hell that they are making a movie about it. Sure they are portraying them as heroes, but come on, this is shamelessly playing on the american people's feelings here. There already was a documentary about this flight on TLC I believe, why make a MOVIE now?
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26-Apr-06, 02:33 PM
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Heroes4Heroes
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I am a Family member.
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26-Apr-06, 10:42 PM
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yea I probably will see it but definitely a downloaded version because entertainment companies don't deserve my money anymore.
btw, there is yet another movie coming out soon, aptly titled World Trade Center
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27-Apr-06, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by maverick
Its too soon.
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I won't disagree, I think this is in large part why this film is so controversial.
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27-Apr-06, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by a_welch503
In my opinion 9/11, the WTC, and United 93 are off limits when it comes to making movies. The people who were victims that day and the ones who were heroes that day deserve better.
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I apparently lost a whole dissertation I'd just written, but it went like this...
Andy, I disagree. This is comparable to movies such as Pearl Harbor, Alamo, We Were Soldiers, Apollo 13, or any other movie based on historical events.
I fail to see how watching this movie "sh!# on the memory" of these heroes.
I'm going to see it, honoring (in my mind) the portrayals of these heroes, who in the face of their own mortality had the character to intervene. The fortitude to take action with the hope that those actions would improve the situation, rather than sit back with apathy that "someone else will deal with it".
Andy, I'm not attacking your patriotism, character, or decision, I just hope to inspire a healthy discussion, nothing personal.
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27-Apr-06, 10:46 AM
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I think it all depends on why this film was made. Was it for the money? or was it to honor all the poeple that 911 affected?
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27-Apr-06, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sunmedicFL
Andy, I'm not attacking your patriotism, character, or decision, I just hope to inspire a healthy discussion, nothing personal.
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Umm, no offense taken of course. If you feel you honor them by watching, then watch. I just feel that this early it's immoral for a movie maker to profit based on that horrible day. Perhaps later on, something done for history might be different. However, I haven't watched Pearl Harbor either.
Myself, I just feel it's better to remember them, to honor them, avenge them, and to let them rest in peace...no one should be profiting on them.
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01-May-06, 08:42 AM
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My prayers are with you, Jaster.
I really can't add much more.....
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01-May-06, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sunmedicFL
I apparently lost a whole dissertation I'd just written, but it went like this...
Andy, I disagree. This is comparable to movies such as Pearl Harbor, Alamo, We Were Soldiers, Apollo 13, or any other movie based on historical events.
I fail to see how watching this movie "sh!# on the memory" of these heroes.
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Good point. Also include any movie/books on world wars, holocaust.
Or the passion of the christ. Kyle mentioned it was a torture film.
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01-May-06, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by a_welch503
I won't be seeing it. No disrespect intended to the family members who lost loved ones that horrible day. There were victims that day. There were heros that day. I will not sh*t on their memory by going to see a movie about it. Movies are for entertainment - nothing about that day has been or ever will be for entertainment. Nothing about that day has been or ever will be for lining the pockets of someone who wants to make a movie.
Besides, you want to see a redneck hillbilly who has strong southern American values (including men don't cry), as mentally/emotionally tough as you can get, sometimes on rare occasions physically tough too cry like a baby girl - then just sit me down in front of that movie screen.
In my opinion 9/11, the WTC, and United 93 are off limits when it comes to making movies. The people who were victims that day and the ones who were heroes that day deserve better.
Of course someone can make any movie they want - but I won't be watching it.
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why are they off limits when there are far greater tragedies throughout history that are fine to make movies of and are great movies ?
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01-May-06, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Maclane
why are they off limits when there are far greater tragedies throughout history that are fine to make movies of and are great movies ?
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Respect for the surviving loved ones. Personally I won't be putting money into the pockets of the moviemongers at this point out of that respect.
Someone who died 2000 years ago, no one around to harm. 50 years ago, ample healing time has passed.
Personally, I won't be putting money into the moviemonger's pocket. However, like I've already said, if someone else feels they honor them by watching, then they should watch. I feel I honor their memory and their loved ones by not watching.
Gotta do what you feel is right. It's not really something to debate...just follow your heart and don't forget to give proper respect to the heroes, victims, and those who lost them.
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01-May-06, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by maverick
Its too soon.
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I would also think it is too soon, because 5 years in history I dont think is enough to be able to cope with basically a version of reliving it and the vivid memories that it would bring forward even more, it would be hard and tough for almost anybody.
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