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25-Feb-04, 09:23 PM
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i don't think any tightends have ever gotten under 4.55 on the 40
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26-Feb-04, 05:01 PM
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Dr. Huge
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i think brock may have been giving you numbers of people who are actually in college/pro football, not freshmen looking to get into it. whatever, wrong numbers anyway
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26-Feb-04, 05:04 PM
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i think brock means by the time you are a senior...those numbers are realistic...except for the 40time...i would say atleast a 4.8 though
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27-Feb-04, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by benman2002
i think brock means by the time you are a senior...those numbers are realistic...except for the 40time...i would say atleast a 4.8 though
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i ran the 100 meter in 12.29 and i cut my 200 meter by 4 seconds and ran it in 30 i had a bad start and kind of just finished it. my friend brandon runs a 5.0-5.1 and we raced in the hundred yard yesterday for fun, and we about tied (won by a hare). that shows how much faster i have gotten.
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01-Mar-04, 08:09 PM
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40 yard dash times for a tight end are not hugely important. But, getting it in to the 4's is probably ideal. Most tight ends are not very fast at all. A few, like Shannon Sharpe are, but he is a rather small tight end at 220lbs or so, compared to most of them, who range anywhere from 240-270 or so.
You definately have the potential to play college or pro, due to your size. I am hoping to try out and make a college football team in the near future myself. I bought the book "52 Week Football Training", by Ben Cook. It is an excellent book, and I just started it about a week or so ago.
My advice: Keep working hard and chase your dream. Don't ever let anyone tell you for any reason that you cannot achieve playing college or pro ball. it amazes me how many of these famous athletes, actors, singers, etc, etc, will tell you how people told them they would never make it when they were younger, and now look at them!!
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01-Mar-04, 09:22 PM
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college ball, most likely. elite college ball, maybe but probably not. pro, probably not. but like others here have said, it all just depends. you might hit a big growth spurt, you might not. you might respond really well to weight training, and you might not. you might be good at football and you might not. its really too early to tell. good luck to you though.
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02-Mar-04, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MAURER
i think brock may have been giving you numbers of people who are actually in college/pro football, not freshmen looking to get into it. whatever, wrong numbers anyway
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Those numbers are light if anything, save the bench press and 40. TE's are really a slightly small lineman who can catch when needed. I'd personally say you'd need squat and dl numbers at least in the 500-550 range to not be rolled over by the DE/DTs that you'll be blocking. Power clean should really be in the 300+ range as well.
The only stat that's unrealistic is the 40 time (nobody on Earth runs a legit 4.2, nobody). I would wager most college TE's are in the 4.8-5.2 range.
Granted, at that height/weight, you could have a chance at WR, CB, SS, or FS provided you have the skills for the position. All of which need less strength than TE if you can't get strong enough for it.
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02-Mar-04, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisH
40 yard dash times for a tight end are not hugely important. But, getting it in to the 4's is probably ideal. Most tight ends are not very fast at all. A few, like Shannon Sharpe are, but he is a rather small tight end at 220lbs or so, compared to most of them, who range anywhere from 240-270 or so.
You definately have the potential to play college or pro, due to your size. I am hoping to try out and make a college football team in the near future myself. I bought the book "52 Week Football Training", by Ben Cook. It is an excellent book, and I just started it about a week or so ago.
My advice: Keep working hard and chase your dream. Don't ever let anyone tell you for any reason that you cannot achieve playing college or pro ball. it amazes me how many of these famous athletes, actors, singers, etc, etc, will tell you how people told them they would never make it when they were younger, and now look at them!!
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what college team are you trying out for?
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02-Mar-04, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by marshall
what college team are you trying out for?
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Not sure yet. Right now I am going to spend alot of time getting conditioned and adding some strength and size. They have a few smaller colleges around me, as well as one major university. My build and size is probably best for WR or some kind of safety, maybe QB too. The only reason I say "maybe" QB, is I was not privilaged to play football in high school, because I went to a smaller private school, that did not have a team. QB seems like a position that you need to play for awhile, but I am sure many have stepped up and played QB, despite this. I have a dream to play pro ball too. It may not be easy, but it can definately be done, regardless. hard work, dedication, and not giving up will get you where you want to be. As I mentioned before, many of todays top athletes you find, it seems, were walk-ons or people who were told they couldn't make it, but they did!!
One thing to note to you as well. Someone else mentioned that your size would be good for other positions, such as FS, SS, CB, WR, etc. Don't limit yourself to TE. A lot of players in the NFL and college are playing positions that they didn't play when they were in high school. Keep your options open, and if you feel you can better play another position, don't be afraid to tell your coach. Let your coach know your dreams, and I am sure he will work with you and help you in any way possile. In college, and even the pros, don't be hesitant to just play special teams, even. There are so many positios and options, so do not limit it to TE.  :
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02-Mar-04, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisH
Not sure yet. Right now I am going to spend alot of time getting conditioned and adding some strength and size. They have a few smaller colleges around me, as well as one major university. My build and size is probably best for WR or some kind of safety, maybe QB too. The only reason I say "maybe" QB, is I was not privilaged to play in high school, because I went to a smaller private school, that did not have a team. QB seems like a position that you need to play for awhile, but I am sure many have stepped up and played QB, despite this. I have a dream to play pro ball too. It may not be easy, but it can definately be done, regardless. hard work, dedication, and not giving up will get you where you want to be. As I mentioned before, many of todays top athletes you find, it seems, were walk-ons or people who were told they couldn't make it, but they did!!
One thing to note to you as well. Someone else mentioned that your size would be good for other positions, such as FS, SS, CB, WR, etc. Don't limit yourself to TE. A lot of players in the and college are playing positions that they didn't play when they were in high school. Keep your options open, and if you feel you can better play another position, don't be afraid to tell your coach. Let your coach know your dreams, and I am sure he will work with you and help you in any way possile. In college, and even the pros, don't be hesitant to just play special teams, even. There are so many positios and options, so do not limit it to TE.  :
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i was kind of considering playing linebacker. That is what i am built for and that is what my grandpa played at kansas state. (fell off the roof and broke his wrists, so painful he had to stop playing never went pro.) i didn't run my 40 fast enough at the beginning of the season, i was a couch potatoe and i was running on a wet field without cleats on so i never had the chance to play it.
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18-Mar-04, 03:10 AM
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what do colleges look for in a linebacker? this is wierd i know this kid he is only a junior, he is 6'0 180 and runs a 4.4 he has good bench and squat numbers, yet i haven't heard of any college recruiting. you think he would be getting some attention yet he isn't he starts on varsity, it's not like he can't play.
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18-Mar-04, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by marshall
what do colleges look for in a linebacker? this is wierd i know this kid he is only a junior, he is 6'0 180 and runs a 4.4 he has good bench and squat numbers, yet i haven't heard of any college recruiting. you think he would be getting some attention yet he isn't he starts on varsity, it's not like he can't play.
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tell your boy to get up to 210 without slowing down and hell have scouts drooling over him. skill+size+speed=a linebacker. hes got everything but the size. tell him also to get that 225 bench press down. thats what pro scouts look for, so if he can have that by college, sweet. also, tell him to stay flexible, flexibility is key in a sport where your drilling people at ful speed, dont wanna tear any ligamnets and ruin a career forever
Last edited by JDiZZle56; 18-Mar-04 at 09:54 PM.
Reason: for his friend, not him
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19-Mar-04, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JDiZZle56
tell your boy to get up to 210 without slowing down and hell have scouts drooling over him. skill+size+speed=a linebacker. hes got everything but the size. tell him also to get that 225 bench press down. thats what pro scouts look for, so if he can have that by college, sweet. also, tell him to stay flexible, flexibility is key in a sport where your drilling people at ful speed, dont wanna tear any ligamnets and ruin a career forever
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he benches 315 and he is 185,sorry.
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20-Mar-04, 08:52 PM
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6'0, 185, and running a 4.4? Sounds like a WR to me. Tell that kid to learn how to catch.
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21-Mar-04, 09:07 PM
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it sounds a little wierd doesn't it. At 185 and running a 4.4 he is probably defensively better at corner or something in the secondary. My only explanation is that the coaches want him more involved in the . which he is at the linebacker position.
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