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Old 05-Feb-06, 12:35 AM   #1
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1 muscle group 1 time a week


I know someone who only trained each muscle group one day a week and gained 15lbs of mass in 6 months. Like monday would be chest, tuesday shoulders, wednesday legs and so on, and each body part would be worked to exhaustion but only once per week. That and as much protein as possible. I was thinking of doing the same thing if it worked for them. What do you guys think about this?
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Old 05-Feb-06, 09:47 AM   #2
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That and as much protein as possible.
That's the significant part of what you just posted.
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Old 05-Feb-06, 05:52 PM   #3
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Old 05-Feb-06, 10:54 PM   #4
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That's the significant part of what you just posted.
Not the most significant part of what he just posted.

I honestly consume no more than 120grams of protein a day, from 1litre of milk morning night, to 4sandwhiches breakfast, dinner, not the cleanest foods either.. The significant part is the training part.

With my 120grams consumd daily, it hasn't stopped me from growing from 68kg to 99kg in 2yrs and 11months with a height of 6ft2 and still maintain same bodyfat, and i always stick to training each bodypart once a week.

It depends on every body, i dont supplement anything, and only tried supplementing creatine, never bought protein powder or anything.

Yes diet is important, but i dont think protein is "as" important as stated, pro bodybuilders get that big becuase of Juice, not because of the amount of protein they take as being something significant, some people here i believe consume in the vicinity of 180-200grams of protein, or their 1gram per pound idea, and if you weigh 220, someone like lee priest also weighs 220 and say he took 220grams of protein, doesn't mean you'll be as big as him.. Steroids play a big part in that, becuase carbs feul the muscles, protein is what builds it, but i dont think that that much is needed...
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Old 05-Feb-06, 10:56 PM   #5
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Not every style of training works for every person, find something that works for you and stick to it.
That is also very true, and not every person needs the same amount of protein to grow comparitively more.
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Were they doing something like this plan? If so then yes, it is very effective.

But like has already been said, not every plan works for everyone.

This one works well for me. I do one body part per day. Two days off a week and it works better (for me) than any other routine I've tried. I still have ups and downs in my training, but the direction I move is generally positive.

My wife recently started it and in 8 weeks she's more than doubled her strength in every lift, looks way smaller, her clothes are getting baggy on her, yet has only lost a couple of pounds. That tells me she's building muscle.
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Old 06-Feb-06, 11:40 AM   #7
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Yes diet is important, but i dont think protein is "as" important as stated, pro bodybuilders get that big becuase of Juice,
True...and I'm not denying that the training is important. Obviously if you eat a ton of protein and never get off your ass, you're not going to grow muscle. Nevertheless, those pro bodybuilders' muscles aren't made out of Juice, they're made out of protein.
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Old 06-Feb-06, 01:10 PM   #8
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My wife recently started it and in 8 weeks she's more than doubled her strength in every lift, looks way smaller, her clothes are getting baggy on her, yet has only lost a couple of pounds. That tells me she's building muscle.
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Old 06-Feb-06, 02:29 PM   #9
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Yes diet is important, but i dont think protein is "as" important as stated, pro bodybuilders get that big becuase of Juice, not because of the amount of protein they take as being something significant, some people here i believe consume in the vicinity of 180-200grams of protein, or their 1gram per pound idea, and if you weigh 220, someone like lee priest also weighs 220 and say he took 220grams of protein, doesn't mean you'll be as big as him.. Steroids play a big part in that, becuase carbs feul the muscles, protein is what builds it, but i dont think that that much is needed...
This may be true for you, but I never started really putting on size & strength until I upped my protein to around 2g/lb of bodyweight. Currently I eat about 450g a day, and I've never been stronger. Some may respond better to 1g/lb, and I know of guys that are taking in the range of 2.5g/lb and doing well.

As far as pro's being "made of Juice".......while it's true that most do take a lot of gear, they also eat like animals, including lots of protein. You said it yourself, "protein is what builds muscles".......so I don't understand why you wouldn't see the correlation between high protein and strength/size increases.
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Old 06-Feb-06, 02:53 PM   #10
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my god 450grams a day!?!? How is that possible? What do you eat?
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eggs, milk, chicken, beef, cottage cheese, whey, salmon & tuna.........took a bit of getting used to but it's not bad at all, and the results are well worth it.
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Old 06-Feb-06, 03:34 PM   #12
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I'm about at that level too count 445g/day at 200 lbs. I only get 100 from whey (20 when I wake up, 20 as a snack, 40 post workout and 20 more as a snack)

Based on the often sited 40/40/20 p/c/f that's only 4450 Cal/day nothing extrodinary for an athlete.

Esp when you figure 2500cal/day is the base calories for a male then figure every pound of muscle burns 50 cal/day (say you added 25lbs over a "normal" person) and a 700 calorie workout (nothing too extreme) that puts you easily to the 4450 Cal/day range. Which by the 40/40/20 rule you should get 450 g /day of protien.
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True...and I'm not denying that the training is important. Obviously if you eat a ton of protein and never get off your ass, you're not going to grow muscle. Nevertheless, those pro bodybuilders' muscles aren't made out of Juice, they're made out of protein.
Yes they are made out of protein, protein synthesis is what Juice speeds up, do i need to say more? now if pro bodybuilders aren't getting 400grams of protein a day, i dont see why someone that isn't even on gear would, as naturally you hit a limit to how much protein synthesis can occur to build the muscle, any more and its just a waste.

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This may be true for you, but I never started really putting on size & strength until I upped my protein to around 2g/lb of bodyweight. Currently I eat about 450g a day, and I've never been stronger. Some may respond better to 1g/lb, and I know of guys that are taking in the range of 2.5g/lb and doing well.

As far as pro's being "made of Juice".......while it's true that most do take a lot of gear, they also eat like animals, including lots of protein. You said it yourself, "protein is what builds muscles".......so I don't understand why you wouldn't see the correlation between high protein and strength/size increases.
Everybody's genetics are different, when i started bodybuilding i didn't supplement protein becuase in Australia it just costs too much, and as i kept training i realised that i didn't need what was stated in magazines / across baords of 1gram/2grams to the lb.

"and I know of guys that are taking in the range of 2.5g/lb and doing well." Congratulations to them it's all about what works for you.

What i'm trying to say about the Pro's is, they are 4-8%bf with like 120-130kg of Muscle, and for their height of some like Jay Cutler 5ft9, no matter how much protein you take, naturally and to look as lean as he does and weigh 265lb it's all a dream. Juice speeds up protein synthesis which would make taking 2g/lb or whatever amount justifiable. At 5ft 9 you might hit 200lb as cut as he is, and thats probably a brick wall even... no matter how much protein you'll consume.

When i eat, i just check to see it has an adequate amount of protein in the one meal (>20grams or so) i dont bother counting/checking about fats / carbs or anything. Carbs i believe are equally just as important to growing the muscle, becuase they provide the feul for it, which is why i also think people that are on high protein/low carb diet are also loosing in the game.
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Old 09-Feb-06, 12:01 PM   #14
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because of the foods you are eating to get that high protein you better also take note of just how much cholesterol you are eating. Though you don't think about it at your current age your eating habits now will become your eating habits later in life and harder to break, and not that much later in life either, once you hit 30 it's important to lower your cholesterol intake as much as possible. A good idea would be to increase you intake of cholesterol droppers like spinach and oats.

As for working each body part once a week, there are hundreds of topics on this forum advocating exactly that. Every routine I post works each body part once a week or with at least 4 days inbetween sessions.
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Dins, i dont eat that high cholestrol food, by not counting/checking about the fats / carbs, i still make sure that what i consume is relatively clean.

My diet consists of normally
1litre of Milk When i wakeup, 1litre of Milk When i go to bed. (All with Kellog's Special K or Milo) along with a Banana

Then i have 6slices of bread, with tomato sauce as a base and low fat mozarella cheese and cooked in the oven for 10minutes or so. Cucumber/Lettuce cut in pieces with salt (2 or 3)

Then comes dinner, which is normally a whole bowl of salad (cucumbers/lettuce/tomatoes/onion/cheese) and then the main meal lean beef / pork along with potato's

Before Bed the 1litre of milk specialk/milo again.

I dont think i really even eat 'that' much and i wouldn't see everything else i'm eating as being that badd for you. I Think its relatively clean, and with an active lifestyle of bodybuilding i think its okay. I dont know how much carbs/fats as i dont count it.

And if i break down the protein its around
-Meal 1: 34
-Meal 2: 25-30
-Meal 3: 30-40
-Meal 4: 34
Total around ~125grams probably. Almost half of my protein consumption is Casein Protein. I Weigh 99kg (218lb)
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