Both of the methods are fine. I dont think there is much difference between them to tell you the truth. Frankly, if you watch what you eat and do some cardio you probably wont have to train your abs directly at all (this depends on what other exersices you do).
Personally I think the most important thing to do when training abs is to use more than just your bodyweight so you can go to failure, or close to it. Your abs grow just like any other muscle group in your body and require overload to grow. Doing 100 crunches is far less effective than doing 2 or 3 sets of 8 to 12 reps of heavy cable crunches.
Both of the methods are fine. I dont think there is much difference between them to tell you the truth. Frankly, if you watch what you eat and do some cardio you probably wont have to train your abs directly at all (this depends on what other exersices you do).
Agreed. Especially if you have squats and like excercises in your routine, direct ab workouts many times aren't necessary on a regular basis. Dumbell press and flies and other stabilizer workouts are also amazing for the abs.
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If you want to really hit your abs like no other method just do reverse curls, were you are lifting your legs up (like say from the edge of a bench) they really hit the lower/upper all the abs altogether.
I also heard that people with big obliques have a bigger waist, dont know if that part of its true but asfor the reverse situps (lying down leg raisers) they do wonders for me.
Do them all in one workout. I do them the same day as my legs, reasoning that legs use a lot of muscle for the effort and abs use a little muscle for the effort so the balance out.
I agree Clark use a wieght a lot of wieght and most importantly watch what you eat. If you are not going to make the effort/commitment in the kitchen don't waste your time doing ab work.
When doing reverse curls, it never feels like im hitting my abs hard...is there a video anywhere of how to do them properly?
Zackoz dude when i do them i completely get slaughtered even with a 5x20 routine... and then im gone for the next 3-4days with the abs department.
Try lifting your head a little and you should see the abs literally POP-OUT like asif you have a full blown stomach. and try having just your butt on the end of the bench and legs leaning in free air for extra motion/stress and then perform them lifting the legs upto a vertical position (they should be pointing to the cieling) and then lower all the way down past the straight level just dont make your legs touch the floor, and repeat (also keeping the legs dead straight not bending them at all).
Try lifting your head a little and you should see the abs literally POP-OUT like asif you have a full blown stomach. and try having just your butt on the end of the bench and legs leaning in free air for extra motion/stress and then perform them lifting the legs upto a vertical position (they should be pointing to the cieling) and then lower all the way down past the straight level just dont make your legs touch the floor, and repeat (also keeping the legs dead straight not bending them at all).
Sounds about right.... Head up, legs all the way up to 90 degrees and then let them fall THROUGH the horizontal line on the way down to take everything you got out of them...... Yup, pretty much on point.....
Also, you could lift your ass a tad at the top of the raise and hold it there for a sec, should make the lift heavier.....