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Old 20-Jun-05, 03:17 AM   #1
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any good substitute for dips?


Hi I like dips but it's too easy for me to press my weight. I'd like to do weighted dips but what kind of equipment do you need for this?


if i cant do waited dips, are skullcrushers just as effective?
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Old 20-Jun-05, 04:41 AM   #2
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A dip belt will only cost around $25 or so.

Close grip bench would be a better substitue in my mind rather than an isolation movement like skull crushers.
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Old 20-Jun-05, 05:03 AM   #3
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I'm with Ironman on this, close grip bench is a compound movement just like dipping is, so if you're gonna omit dips go with CGBP as opposed to skullcrushers.

If for whatever reason you don't get a dip belt (which is obviously the best way to add weight to dips) I find a martial arts belt , if you've got the hips for it, can sling a weight plate and your waist quite nicely. Takes practice to find the 'balance point' and adds a whole new dimension as you try and keep your torso stable enough that the whole contraption doesn't fall off.

Might be a bad idea skeletally I dunno, no responsibility taken for injuries caused so on and so forth
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Might be a bad idea skeletally I dunno, no responsibility taken for injuries caused so on and so forth
lol Nice disclaimer!
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Old 20-Jun-05, 01:34 PM   #5
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A dip belt will only cost around $25 or so.

Close grip bench would be a better substitue in my mind rather than an isolation movement like skull crushers.

well i like the idea of the close grip but I'm trying to target that one muscle on the tri's, that one inner muscle that normal wide-grip bench does not get(part of tri that is closest to the body when your arms are down at your sides)

and will close grip target this muscle?
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Old 20-Jun-05, 04:25 PM   #6
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just get a back pack and fill it with weights. thats what i do
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Old 20-Jun-05, 05:43 PM   #7
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Or, what I did today, take a regular lifting belt, and use it to attach a dumbell.
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Old 21-Jun-05, 01:12 AM   #8
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I would take the backpack but im not sure if my gym trusts me enough to let me stuff their weights into my backpack where they cant see'em =P

and to abarlament - how did you attach a dumbbell to a lifting belt?
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Old 21-Jun-05, 03:59 PM   #9
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well i like the idea of the close grip bench press but I'm trying to target that one inner muscle on the triceps that normal wide-grip bench does not hit(part of tri that is closest to the body when your arms are down at your sides)

will close grip bench target this muscle?


can anybody answer this question ?

if it helps, the muscle im talking about is either 1 or 3(or both) on this figure

http://www.exrx.net/Muscles/TricepsBrachii.html


My tri day is tomorrow so I hope i can get a response by then
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Old 21-Jun-05, 04:16 PM   #10
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I am thinking that you are talking about the Long Head of the Triceps? Yes, close grip should hit this very nicely. Reverse Grip Pushdowns are also very good, it's more isolative than the compound movement of the close grip.

"The Long Head:

The long head (caput longum), is the largest of the three heads (Caput = head). It originates from the shoulder blade just below the rounded socket of the shoulder joint, and extends almost three-fourths of the way toward the front of the arm.

The long head of the triceps is located on the back of your arm. It is the only triceps head connected to both the shoulder and elbow.

This means shoulder exercises will heavily stress the Long Tricep head. Caput longum aids the shoulder in stretching your arms behind your body."

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Old 21-Jun-05, 07:33 PM   #11
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and to abarlament - how did you attach a dumbbell to a lifting belt?
Think about it. The dumbell has the thin handle, and two bulbs. Just hold it vertically against your body, and strap on the belt around the handle, the top bulb will not be able to squeeze between your body and the belt.
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Think about it. The dumbell has the thin handle, and two bulbs. Just hold it vertically against your body, and strap on the belt around the handle, the top bulb will not be able to squeeze between your body and the belt.
and the bottom bulb should be swinging nicely against the man-gear, I love a good dumbell in the balls to start my day

How did you avoid this (I also found tying a weight plate on with a MA belt to be problematic in this area - mostly hitting me knees actually).

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lol Nice disclaimer!
**looks around nervously and whispers to IronMan** ... is my major showing ??
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and the bottom bulb should be swinging nicely against the man-gear, I love a good dumbell in the balls to start my day

How did you avoid this (I also found tying a weight plate on with a MA belt to be problematic in this area - mostly hitting me knees actually).



**looks around nervously and whispers to IronMan** ... is my major showing ??

lol this was hilarious.
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