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12-Aug-05, 03:05 PM
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I forgot about the jaster shrugs, I do them every shoulder day though, just had forgotten what they are called. Don't get greedy with naming everything after yourself. JK. When I stop to pick up my temporary bar today, I'm picking up another one to take to the welding shop and have it made into a "Jaster Bar". I'm even going to call it that.
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12-Aug-05, 03:07 PM
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Hi Drama Queen
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Originally Posted by a_welch503
I forgot about the jaster shrugs, I do them every shoulder day though, just had forgotten what they are called. Don't get greedy with naming everything after yourself. JK. When I stop to pick up my temporary bar today, I'm picking up another one to take to the welding shop and have it made into a "Jaster Bar". I'm even going to call it that.
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post the design - i want one too! 
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27/01/06: bench - 170; squat - 195 (wrapped); deadlift - 210; total - 575; need - 617; to go - 42
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12-Aug-05, 03:54 PM
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Cutting Physed is the same in Canada. When I moved to Ontario in Grade 8 we hardly ever did gym I think once a week, and in HS you only need one physed credit for the 4 or 5 years you're there. (4 or 5 then, now 4 yrs)
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12-Aug-05, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ajarvis
Cutting Physed is the same in Canada. When I moved to Ontario in Grade 8 we hardly ever did gym I think once a week, and in HS you only need one physed credit for the 4 or 5 years you're there. (4 or 5 then, now 4 yrs)
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We actually have more than that here in California. At least when I was in junior high and high school which was 10+ years ago. In junior high we had to take PE for 2 years. I'm not sure if it's still the same but I think it is. In high school we had to take 2 years of PE. So that's not too bad. Of course, one semester of that is devoted to an inept health science program where they do an ok job of teaching about safe sex and stuff but don't teach anything about HOW to go about achieving physical fitness or good nutrition. The problem there isn't the time devoted to it so much as the curriculum. Like I said previously, they could easily teach the basics of strength training, cardiovsacular exercise, nutrition and all that the second freshman semeseter after they devote part of the first to sex ed. They could teach it on Tuesday and Thursday and then still do activity Mon/Wed/Fri. Just like the class was in college. But instead, they didn't go much into the how or why of physical education and instead just said "we're gonna do this". And too often the physical activity consisted of baseball which isn't a big calorie burner anyway. At private schools it's usually worse. At least around here. At the private schools I've subbed at none of them have had PE more than twice a week which is pretty lame.
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12-Aug-05, 05:43 PM
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they do an ok job of teaching about safe sex and stuff but don't teach anything about HOW to go about achieving physical fitness or good nutrition.
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That's how I remembered PE growing up. I didn't want to continue in that fashion, so I do weight training with my "fitness divas" and cook with them. I have a fridge and micro in my class (and a coffee maker  ) so they see me eating good stuff, and often. I think the modeling is important too. I recall having a PE teacher who smoked. :confused: I could never figure that one out!
The safe sex stuff is so important as well. They're having sex at a younger age now. I get out the patch, a packet of BC pills, the ring, the male and female condom and show them how they are used. Well... not show them, exactly, more just... you know what I mean.
And what's a Jaster shrug? Inquiring minds want to know!
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12-Aug-05, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PEPTgirl
That's how I remembered PE growing up. I didn't want to continue in that fashion, so I do weight training with my "fitness divas" and cook with them. I have a fridge and micro in my class (and a coffee maker  ) so they see me eating good stuff, and often. I think the modeling is important too. I recall having a PE teacher who smoked. :confused: I could never figure that one out!
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Yeah, that's so true. I remember one of the PE teachers in high school was fat. I thought that was kinda weird. I'm not talkin' like 20 lbs overweight. I'm talkin' 300+ lbs. The funny thing was our principle could bench 450 lbs! lol
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Well... not show them, exactly, more just... you know what I mean. 
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Uh huh, we know what you mean. lol
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12-Aug-05, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PEPTgirl
The safe sex stuff is so important as well. They're having sex at a younger age now. I get out the patch, a packet of BC pills, the ring, the male and female condom and show them how they are used. Well... not show them, exactly, more just... you know what I mean.
And what's a Jaster shrug? Inquiring minds want to know!
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Hah, reminds me of when I was in HS, our gym teacher was a really nice lady - but rough as a cob. The descriptions were pretty embarrasingly graphic. Enough to make all the girls say NO.
When my little brother was in HS, they had a nurse start coming to school to teach that part, it was more clinical. Then they started giving out condoms. She had a few extra and gave little bro an extra handful saying, "you're cute, you'll probably need these". From his description, she almost jumped through her own a$$ when he showed up at HER door that night to pick up HER duaghter.
The Jaster shrug is just a shrug done behind the back - with a curved bar so that when you pull it up it doesn't hang on your butt. Shoulders straight up, straight down. Try to touch your ears with them.
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12-Aug-05, 10:58 PM
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Hi Drama Queen
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named for our very own jaster! 
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13-Aug-05, 08:38 AM
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I don't give out condoms. I just make sure they know how to use them. The anonymous question and answer box is usually a favourite, provided I do each class separately (boys alone, then girls alone) and not co-ed. Hey, if you guys have any suggestions for topics... things that you wondered about at that age, I'm all ears!
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The Jaster shrug is just a shrug done behind the back - with a curved bar so that when you pull it up it doesn't hang on your butt. Shoulders straight up, straight down. Try to touch your ears with them.
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Interesting! Thanks. Do any other infamous posters here have any self-named moves? 
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13-Aug-05, 09:33 AM
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Sure, here's one that some of the football players wondered about when I was in HS and the correct answer too.
Q. Will using Winstrol V really make the uhhh boy bigger?
A. Yes it will - and will leave it totally useless from the testicular shrinkage that goes with it.
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13-Aug-05, 11:21 AM
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Firstly i agree with all this about bad parenting habits, and marketing... how they will try eat every penny just to make profit...
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Originally Posted by ajarvis
Cutting Physed is the same in Canada. When I moved to Ontario in Grade 8 we hardly ever did gym I think once a week, and in HS you only need one physed credit for the 4 or 5 years you're there. (4 or 5 then, now 4 yrs)
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I finished HS 3yrs ago, and in Sydney Australia, you are required to do PhysEd for the first 4 of the 6years of HS mandatory which is good. They make the last two years optional, where you choose basically the subjects you want to further your career with. I always enjoyed long distance running when i was younger and found physed to be of great benefit. I think here in Australia we see what is happening to USA/Canada etc and acting to prevent it, altho the nation is still pretty unhealthy here, with same problems faced regarding junk food, like Pept girl mentioned, alot of people i see eat doritos and a can of coke... i just think to myself 'wakeup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' there are plenty of healthy alternatives yet they choose the worst of the worst.
Ive tried to swing some friends from uni into fitness/bodybuilding but they find it as a personal attack on them, i dont go in like 'do it or else' but i try give them advice try get them into it and tell them the benefits of healthy eating/exercise, and they defend their current state by saying 'im not into it...' or some other lame excuse or 'u make me feel like ****'... but then again they'll be into it once they no longer have their health that they do as a teen/young adult.
If only governments could somehow ban 'cigarettes' and ban advertising of junk-food, instead advertise healthy foods and educate parents and children alike.
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13-Aug-05, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Vas85
If only governments could somehow ban 'cigarettes' and ban advertising of junk-food, instead advertise healthy foods and educate parents and children alike.
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They certainly could ban those things. But then there goes free choice and personal responsibility. I would like to see the junk food banned from the schools though. What our kids eat should be the parent's responsibility - not the government's. In our local school system, we pay for school lunches ahead of time, I generally pay a month ahead. They then have money in their account to choose what they want to eat. It is certainly hard for a 9 year old to pass up the ice cream and cookies when all the other kids are having it. Mine does pretty good because she chooses the sugar free fruit popsicles, the kind we have at home. But for a while, she was choosing the same crap as the others.
I had to raise all kinds of hell to get them to add these to the choices, they didn't feel that they would sell well enough. They are more than happy to sell garbage to our kids to make money for the school. The extra money helps support the extra programs. Sacrificing kids health, "for the kids". Really good huh.
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13-Aug-05, 01:28 PM
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Hi Drama Queen
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exactly the same thing at my kids' school: there are banks of vending machines doing a brisk grade in chocolate bars and crisps. the cafeteria has pizza (dreadful, chewy stuff), meat pies, chips in gravy, poutine (chips, beef or chicken gravy, oozing with melted cheese curds), jamaican meat patties, and other deep-fried goodies. there's also plastic cups filled with candies they can buy for a toonie. the nod to good health are miniscule salad and fruit plates that cost $4.50 each, while a "small" poutine is $2.50.
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13-Aug-05, 02:42 PM
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They certainly could ban those things. But then there goes free choice and personal responsibility. I would like to see the junk food banned from the schools though.
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I don't think it's that cut and dry. Not to say I don't believe in those things to some extent. I just dont think it's always so simple. I used to believe just in free will but the more I've studied psychology it isn't as cut and dry as "free will or no free will". Marketing and advertising can have a heavier influence on our choices than many of us realize. That's why so much money is devoted to them. I guess it's a philosophical question in the vein of "Is the devil guilty for tempting Eve or is it exclusively Eve's fault because she chose to take the fruit". I think it's somewhere in the middle. But I agree that I don't think the government should ban junk food. Maybe put a tax on it. Maybe ban it from schools but not in general. I do think that advertisers should not be allowed to aim marketing at kids for junk food. Kids are almost like a blank slate and can be heavily influenced in so many ways. And advertisers know if they hook us young we'll have a more friendly view towards their product and have a harder time breaking the habit. Kids should at least have a healthy option of things to eat at school.
I heard there is a school in Pennyslvania that has a deal with Coca-Cola to include their products in the school and even has advertising around the school and on the roof. Has anyone else heard about this?
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13-Aug-05, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Chain
"Is the devil guilty for tempting Eve or is it exclusively Eve's fault because she chose to take the fruit".
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Neither - it's all Adam's fault. If he had done the right thing and said, "you dumbass woman, put that back" and turned it down - there would have been no problem to start with.
Now, no woman can be that hot to get into that much trouble over. Even if she is the only one on the planet.
Kids on the other hand have a harder time saying no than an adult does. An adult should be able to see through the ads and do what is right - and do what is right for our children.
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