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25-Jul-07, 03:01 PM
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Muscles do get used to a movement, its not bull ----.
That is why we have to change routine workouts to maintain growth.
Ask a long distance runner, his legs are use to the work.
If all you can do is dips, increase work load progresively and you will gain.
But at a slower rate than if you altered tri workout
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27-Jul-07, 07:41 PM
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Well i did dips like regular chest dips and they dont give me a headache but bench press and dumbell press still do so im stuck with dips lol. Alot of these should build my chest and tris right?
For example: if i do
6 sets of 10 Dips
6 sets of 10 dumbell curls
3 sets of Lat pulldowns
Would that above be enough to build me?
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29-Jul-07, 10:45 AM
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#18
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I love bench dips.. My arms are long, and I find most of the tricep exercises out there hurt my elbows. For some reason though bench dips don't hurt at all. I can throw a 50 lb plate on my lap and go to it and it hits my tri's wonderfully.
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30-Jul-07, 01:00 PM
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im not even bothering working my biceps out anymore, just chest tris shoulders. biceps mean nothing when ti comes to strength
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30-Jul-07, 04:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xtremetris
im not even bothering working my biceps out anymore, just chest tris shoulders. biceps mean nothing when ti comes to strength
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How about legs and back? They are probably most important for strength.
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30-Jul-07, 10:07 PM
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Ooooh whoops sorry i forgot to mention those. Yes i am back to doing squats and lunges now and i still do the lateral pulldowns and deadlifts.
By the way can anyone tell me what a good tricep exercise for gaining Strength AND Size is?
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31-Jul-07, 09:26 AM
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Close grip bench 2x8 max weight
Cable push down 2x8 max weight
Behind head reverse press 2x8 max weight
That will do for a starter and sometimes i add i set until failure going down in weight as i do
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31-Jul-07, 10:55 AM
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Ok sounds good, but can i do the close grip bench on the smith machine? If i do it on those will they still grow or doe sit have to be on the regular bench
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31-Jul-07, 03:14 PM
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Not sure as i never use smith machines, but if its flat and you can do close grip i cant see any difference, so in a word Yes
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31-Jul-07, 07:51 PM
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Look it up.. Smith machine its pretty tight
My new exercise routine is as follows
Monday:
Chest- 6 sets of 10 Dumbell Press
Triceps- Skull Crushers 4-6 sets of 10
Barbell Curls 4-6 sets of 10
Wednesday:
Chest- Dumbell Press 6 sets of 10
Triceps- Close Grip Bench 4-6 sets of 10
Biceps- Dumbell Curls 4-6 sets of 10
Friday:
Chest- 6 sets of 10 Dumbell Press
Triceps- French Curls 4-6 sets of 10
Barbell Curls 4-6 sets of 10
Teusday Thursday Saturday and Sudnay OFF
Last edited by xtremetris; 31-Jul-07 at 07:55 PM.
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01-Aug-07, 06:17 AM
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most of yr workout moves are the same every session.
Try to change like once a month.
Or instead of 6x10 dumdbell press
Try 2x8 flat dumd press
2x8 incline fly
2x8 decline fly this will give better range of movement and give better results (in my case) so worth looking at variational workouks.
It also helps stop boredom of workout
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01-Aug-07, 06:19 AM
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also where is leg work and abs and deltoid and back
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01-Aug-07, 08:13 AM
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ehh ocasionaly i do leg workouts and i throw a back workout in once in a while.. i just really want big chest tris and shoulders
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01-Aug-07, 10:26 AM
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xtremetris, I'll say it but you probably won't really understand or believe me until you've been in the game for quite a while. It seems like you have to earn the belief.
Work your legs. Work your back. Compound movements, not isolation movements are where you will get strength and look good. Just now you're following the routines, culture and mindset of jocks and magazines which are designed for you to fail so you keep buying them. I call it faux-fitness. In time you'll come to appreciate that three chest sessions a week is prehaps two chest sessions too many. My best advice would be to just let go of the control and let one of the vets here set you up with a good routine.
I'm speaking from expeirence here. I used to have stupid routines.
http://www.discussfitness.com/forums...iew-27956.html
http://www.discussfitness.com/forums...ine-20328.html
and those were after years of even stupider routines.
And every time I thought I'd finally cracked it I'd realise something else a few months later that would show I'd only taken another step on a long long road to understanding. And the truth is the road doesn't stop. So sorry to be so Zen, but I guess what I'm getting at is if someone says your routine could be improved, really listen to them, and employ the imrpovements as soon as you can, if you can.
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01-Aug-07, 10:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xtremetris
ehh ocasionaly i do leg workouts and i throw a back workout in once in a while.. i just really want big chest tris and shoulders
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It sounds crazy, but you won't get a big chest, tris and shoulders without consistently working the back and legs. And even if you do, it looks really strange.
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