Best Shoulder Exercise

[DarkLord]

What do YOU think is the best and msot effective shoulder exercise out of the following.......

1) Standing Barbell Press
2) Seated Press
3) Clean and Press
4) Dumbbell Press
5) Arnold Press
6) Machine Press
7) Clean and Jerk

The choice is yours and it's purely an individual study to see which is possibly the most effective and favourite of your's.

[Blaze]

All of the above

[stretchMk]

awesome, i am just about looking for a new routine for my shoulder~!

can you please give a brief description for some of the terms that you have just used? I know what military press is, but I don't know that it could become so many variations. Thanks a lot

[Chiznarles]

i'm a firm believer of varying ur exercises so I would do all of them. I usually do 3 or 4 exercises per muscle group.

[threenorns]

if you could only do one, it should be overhead military press - barbell or dumbbell, your choice

[Blaze]

Yeah, with barbell, you'll be able to do more weight, but with dumbbells, you're pretty much guaranteed to have even growth and gains, and you'll have more stabalizer activity as well.

[Justice]

well the arnold press.....was made by the terminator :P himself.....and according to him its the best exercise that he knows of that works the front and side delts.......hmm.....well everyone as there own opinion i guess

[threenorns]

okay, first off, wtf is a "arnold press"? except for jaster shrugs, i hate exercises with vanity names - i prefer descriptive names: "double overhead pronated dumbbell press", for example.

the other thing is, arnold was 20 years ago. would you trust louis pasteur to operate on you?

[CF-OC_gal]

Originally Posted by threenorns

the other thing is, arnold was 20 years ago. would you trust louis pasteur to operate on you?

Yes, bodies haven't changed, only what we call a worthy goal has.


I like dumbell shoulder press best. I've been able the get the most out of doing those. Those cuban press warmups(thanks Ironman) have been indispensible for "old overworked" shoulders.

[gcs118]

Arnold press is the technical name for it I do believe, I've never heard it called anything else. It's just a regular overhead shoulder press, but at the bottom of the movement, you rotate your hands/the DBs so your fingers are in front of your face.

As for most effective for shoulder strength, out of those I'd say seated BB MP.

[Khaine]

Personally, the seated DB Press is my favourite... Just need to bust through this plateau wit the 90s that I've been stuck at for a couple weeks...

Other than that, I wanna start employing the different cleans, just need to have somebody teach me the proper technique...

[Justice]

Originally Posted by threenorns

okay, first off, wtf is a "arnold press"? except for jaster shrugs, i hate exercises with vanity names - i prefer descriptive names: "double overhead pronated dumbbell press", for example.

the other thing is, arnold was 20 years ago. would you trust louis pasteur to operate on you?

hmm ok then......Louis Pasteur lived how many yrs ago, hmm about 100 i'd say, now technology has changed just a little bit since then, dont cha think?

now 20 years isnt all that long, and i bet if Arnold proposed that he be your trainer you would jump at the opportunity, anyone would.

Brat is right , bodies haven't changed just the way people think they should look.

and what i said was from his point of view, not mine i don't agree that its the best, i dont like it personally, that was the point of me saying "well everyone as there own opinion i guess"

and you can't say that he didnt do bad at all.....and if he was still in the bodybuilding business today, he would most proberly be up the top somewhere, im not saying he would still be top dog, but up there somewhere.

[threenorns]

oh, guaranteed he'd still be top dog - he was cutting edge. whenever new information or technology came out, he was in like flynn. he is also incredibly gifted, physiologically speaking. that alone causes problems - because he can get gains doing crazy amounts of reps and sets doesn't mean the vast majority of ppl will by following his same routine (they won't).

back in arnold's day, high volume training was all the rage - that's why the huge increase in steroids - there was no way for ordinary joes to recover from the workout in time for the next or even recover enough to function on a daily basis.

never mind that, women really had it tough! not only did they only have the men's routines to follow, but they had the added criteria of maintaining femininity while packing on gladiator-sized slabs of muscle! if a woman didn't basically look like a man in drag, she hadn't a hope of getting near the Ms O (with, of course, the notable exceptions of Rachel McLish and Cory Everson). today, we have the fitness category, where women can actually look like strong women.

[CF-OC_gal]

Nah not exactly. Arnold has been a champion not because of his genetic gifts but because of his dogged determination to win and applying himself. He works damn HARD at his goals.

People on this forum like Axion, Most Muscle, Todd, Cursor, DanC and Luke also understand this type of winning attitude. They don't sit back and let there genetic gifts carry them along and neither did Arnold.

BTW - Women's BB back then was in it's infancy. There was no one else like Rachel McLish, Carla Dunlap and Cory Everson. It was the types like Bev Francis and Kay Baxter who introduced mannish figures to the stage. They did not do well in the judging at all in the beginning. I don't think I ever heard of the distinction between a man's routine and a woman's routine. We all did what ever volume and intensity our bodies could handle to achieve our conditioning goals.

[CF-OC_gal]

Anyways back to those shoulder exercises...