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Old 03-Dec-03, 01:36 PM   #31
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Im lookin to get into a contest in the summer, do u know any organizations web sites i can go to besides INBA/ABA??for naturals of course?
Why not look into the WNSO, the same one I am with? http://www.worldnaturalsports.com/ .
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Old 03-Dec-03, 06:34 PM   #32
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almost all those comps are in canada... i live in california.. todd do u live in canada?
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Old 03-Dec-03, 06:49 PM   #33
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Sorry yah, I didn't realize that most of those comps were in Canada.
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Old 03-Dec-03, 09:09 PM   #34
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haha its cool, thanks anyway..
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Old 05-Dec-03, 06:07 PM   #35
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how lenient are you being with your calories right now todd?? like at night are you completely restricting carbs b4 bed? just curious cause im being more lenient then ever... im gonna keep bulking till i can barely see abs anymore.. then thats when i kno i need to add alittle more cardio in and restrict the carbs more..
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Old 05-Dec-03, 07:11 PM   #36
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Right now, I too am trying to add as much quality lean muscle as possible with minimal fat gain. Since I workout at night (around 7:30pm), I still consume carbs all the way up until I go to bed for my post-workout meals following my workout.

Meals eaten post-workout look like this....

Immediately after working out -- (post-workout Meal #1): Whey protein shake, 5 gram creatine drink mix (simple carbs), 10 grams of glutamine, 1000 mg of NAC, 1000 mg of ALA.

30 minutes later (post-workout meal #2): 1/2 baked potato, lean turkey breast (or chicken), water.

30 minutes later (post-workout meal #3): Whey protein shake, 1/2 baked potato, 5 gram creatine drink mix.

1 hour later (post-workout meal #4): 1 1/2 cups of 1% cottage cheese, broccoli, 1 cup of milk with 10 grams of glutamine mixed in..along with some water right before hitting the sack.

OFF TO BED! So yah, as you can see, I don't restrict carb intake before bedtime that much at all, that is because I train at night, and after working out, your body needs carbs in the meals following that of your original post-workout meal. Because of this, the body makes use of those complex carbs and therefore there is no worry about them being stored as fat. Notice though, my very last meal before bedtime contains no complex carbs...broccoli instead, which provides your body with the nutrients it needs while not getting stored as fat. Cottage cheese provides my body with slow absorbing protein and plenty of glutamine as well so that my body will constantly receive protein and nutrients throughout the hours spent sleeping, where whey protein shakes at this time are absorbed too quickly, leaving your body thirsty for protein within an hour or so of consumption. I take extra glutamine as well with my milk.
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Old 06-Dec-03, 04:41 AM   #37
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That was a very helpful post Todd! I'm definitely gonna start making a few changes for the meals after my workout. :thumbup:
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Old 06-Dec-03, 08:00 AM   #38
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thats intersting.. so why do u eat 3 meals after ur workout?? i got the gym at 7 or 8 and get home around 10... on the way home i have a get lean kashi protein bar.... then when i get home i have a turkey or chicken breast usually.... then b4 bed i eat like 5-10 slices of turkey and a glass of milk... i could put alot more work in i guess on cookin up more meals...
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Old 06-Dec-03, 04:35 PM   #39
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Mustang -- Hey, you are welcome, and I hope it helps you out a lot!

Rookie -- I eat all those meals within that 3 hour period after working out because, during this time, your body is in a starved state for carbs and the uptake of quality nutrients. Taking in simple carbs and whey protein is perfect for the immediate meal following workouts because they both get absorbed fast by the muscles and put to use to jumpstart recuperation, growth and it keeps/puts your system into an anabolic state. The meals following the first post-workout meal are equally as important, because your body then also needs some more complex carbs and lean sources of protein that will stabilize your blood sugar levels and continue/enhance your anabolic state....more or less, it needs some more solid nourishment following that quick uptake of the first meal. It is not just within the first hour following exercise that your body craves the uptake of quality nutrients, it's more like the first 3 hours..so that is why it is important to take in quite a few top-notch foods within the first 3 hours after your workouts.

Basically, your body is so depleted from working so hard, and it's in such an anabolic state, that it can process and make use of that much food with the first 3 hours. If you neglect to feed your muscles properly within this time, then your body can easily switch into a catabolic state..not what you want, right?

What you eat within the hours following each and every workout heavily dictates the amount of growth and results you get from that previous workout. You either keep and set your body into an anabolic state within the hours following exercise, or you become catabolic. It all depends on what you consume, and the timing of it.
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genius... sheer genius.. so when do u cook all this stuff? like a few days in advance... thats my biggest flaw if i dont feel like cookin chicken breast ill jjust eat half a bag of chicken breast slices instead of cooking...

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Old 08-Dec-03, 02:07 AM   #41
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id love to compete one day, and i will do it. end of next year i will, not sure what in though.... :confused:
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natural ametures.. u have to.. well that is unless u arent natural.. and if u keep tellin urself ur gonna compete its great motivation..good luck.
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Old 08-Dec-03, 05:22 PM   #43
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genius... sheer genius.. so when do u cook all this stuff? like a few days in advance... thats my biggest flaw if i dont feel like cookin chicken breast ill jjust eat half a bag of chicken breast slices instead of cooking...
Well, for chicken breasts, I usually buy a whole bag of chicken breasts and then BBQ them all at one shot, then eat them as I need them sort of thing. But, I too eat lean meat slices, such as turkey breast. Potatos, I just poke a few holes in them, and throw them in the microwave for 3 or so minutes. Same with broccoli, put it in a bowl, add a splash of water and microwave to steam it! A lot of it is pretty simple if you think about it, and none of it requires that much planning...a little maybe for the chicken breasts, but that is it.

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Old 08-Dec-03, 05:26 PM   #44
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If you dont mind rubber you can always poach the chicken in some salted water.
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Old 08-Dec-03, 05:39 PM   #45
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whats poaching?
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