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16-May-05, 11:18 AM
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Curious comment on deadlifts
We've debated this pretty heartily in the past, but thought I'd reopen the can of worms by sharing this nugget. I don't know this guy from Adam, and bear in mind it is just an opinion from a random Web site -- one I happen to agree with.
"There is no place for touch and go repetitions when doing the deadlift. If you are going to do reps, treat each rep as a single. Slowly set the bar to the floor, reset, and pull again. Another word of warning, this is a very safe mass building exercise when done in correct form. Remember....keep the head and eyes up, the shoulders back, the back flat, and the hips down. Psyche your self up really well, let out a mighty yell and pull like crazy!"
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16-May-05, 12:26 PM
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With regards to form, whats does "hips down" mean?
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16-May-05, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by -AC-
With regards to form, whats does "hips down" mean?
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He means that from the start position, don't pull your butt up too fast and make your lower back do all the work.
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16-May-05, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Klinger
We've debated this pretty heartily in the past, but thought I'd reopen the can of worms by sharing this nugget. I don't know this guy from Adam, and bear in mind it is just an opinion from a random Web site -- one I happen to agree with.
"There is no place for touch and go repetitions when doing the deadlift. If you are going to do reps, treat each rep as a single. Slowly set the bar to the floor, reset, and pull again. Another word of warning, this is a very safe mass building exercise when done in correct form. Remember....keep the head and eyes up, the shoulders back, the back flat, and the hips down. Psyche your self up really well, let out a mighty yell and pull like crazy!"
Tom McCullough MS RD CSCS MSS
Strength and Conditioning Coach
Sport Nutrition Consultant
Houston, TX
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Yea, that's how I do em (yea, with my sissy hex-bar. I know I know... heard it all before from dark. But I'm doing 520ish w/ the hex bar so I don't count it as my max) Basically it just hurts my hands when I let it hit the ground for me to keep going. I do powercleans the same way.
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16-May-05, 08:34 PM
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I agree with that mainly because on the downward motion of hgeavy deads my form seems to get a lil out of whack so I need to reposition myself before the next rep unless I wanna get hurt.
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16-May-05, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Klinger
He means that from the start position, don't pull your butt up too fast and make your lower back do all the work.
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Yeah that's right. There should be no wasted movement. When you drop your butt down to start, as soon as it moves the bar should start moving. Many people will lose a good few inches as their ass flies up before they start pulling on the bar.
No wasted movement  .
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16-May-05, 09:04 PM
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I agree with pretty much everything  :
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16-May-05, 09:21 PM
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I so badly need to focus on my deadlift form. Perhaps thinking of each rep as singles is what I need. I'm definitely guilty of bringing my hips up too fast, mainly cause my legs are my weakpoint.
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16-May-05, 11:28 PM
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You're only going to be very sorry down the road if you start neglecting your legs. If your legs are the weak point, try pulling off of 2 plates stacked on each other. You'll definitely go down in weight, but it helps a lot. So does pause squatting.
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20-May-05, 04:06 PM
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you know what i do, i drag the bar up my shins and thigh, my coach taught me that was the correct form. so on my team to do the correct form you should have bloody shins, which sucked and who knows maybe i got hepatitis sharing the same bar with everyone, but i keep my hips and ass down and my form looks pretty flawless, i tried not dragging the bar up my shins and thigh but it feels like i use to much back when i do that.
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20-May-05, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rookie
you know what i do, i drag the bar up my shins and thigh, my coach taught me that was the correct form. so on my team to do the correct form you should have bloody shins, which sucked and who knows maybe i got hepatitis sharing the same bar with everyone, but i keep my hips and ass down and my form looks pretty flawless, i tried not dragging the bar up my shins and thigh but it feels like i use to much back when i do that.
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Rookie's got it right. The bar should never leave the skin. What he's doing wrong is forgetting to wear sweats so that he won't bleed.
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20-May-05, 04:26 PM
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You should definitely be scraping your shins, but my thighs have always been fine.
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21-May-05, 03:17 AM
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the reason your thighs dont hurt is because your not rubbing the bar against the bone, but on the shins theirs alota friction with the bar and the shin bone so you scrape alota the skin off. on my team who evers shins were the bloodiest was hittin it the hardest.
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21-May-05, 03:46 AM
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Im always close to the bar during my pull, but the only times im touching the bar with my skin is at the very beginning during positioning and as it enters over the knee and drags up the thigh towards the lockout.
What's your take on this? Think i could get some extra pulling power by going even closer to my body?
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21-May-05, 02:04 PM
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Bingo, I know Tom pretty good too!
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