Max-Ot Warmup...

[Todd]

Originally Posted by Firehawk

Thats not what it says in MAX OT todd, and if i remember correctly, about chest/tricep day...it said that if you warmed up your chest, and then went into doing triceps, you did not need to do any warmups for the tris because they are ALREADY warmed up...

Read this article... http://www.ast-ss.com/dev/qa_search/...xt.asp?ID=1527 . :

[kungfu74]

Todd, first off I want to say thanks a ton for jumping in here and giving us your opinion! As you might imagine I, and I'm sure many others have alot of respect for you due to your current success in bodybuilding. I do have one note however about doing more the 2 muscle groups in a single workout. I have seen a few routines provided on the AST site that include working three different muscle groups. For example the current MaxOT routine I am implementing includes doing 3 different muscle groups on Friday, (Abs, calves, and forearms). This routine can be found here-> http://www.ast-ss.com/jeffwillet/art...schedule_1.asp
and there is another here -> http://www.ast-ss.com/jeffwillet/art...schedule_3.asp the only note that I would make is that when they have included 3 different muscle groups is when abs is one of them. Again, I appreciate your input a ton and if it weren't for you I wouldn't be doing MAX OT today... :thumbup:

[Firehawk]

Originally Posted by Todd

Read this article... http://www.ast-ss.com/dev/qa_search/...xt.asp?ID=1527 . :

Hmm, now they are contradicting their own PDF file dude. I could swear i saw them say specifically for example, if you did chest and tris on the same day, there woudl be NO NEED to warm up the secondary muscle because its already WARMED UP!

This is how ive been doing max OT, and its been working ok for me...now as i said above, if I do shoulders/legs, i definitely warm both up....

[Todd]

Originally Posted by kungfu74

I do have one note however about doing more the 2 muscle groups in a single workout. I have seen a few routines provided on the AST site that include working three different muscle groups. For example the current MaxOT routine I am implementing includes doing 3 different muscle groups on Friday, (Abs, calves, and forearms). This routine can be found here-> http://www.ast-ss.com/jeffwillet/art...schedule_1.asp
and there is another here -> http://www.ast-ss.com/jeffwillet/art...schedule_3.asp the only note that I would make is that when they have included 3 different muscle groups is when abs is one of them. Again, I appreciate your input a ton and if it weren't for you I wouldn't be doing MAX OT today... :thumbup:

You are right kungfu, yes, they do occasionally include 3 muscle groups within one session, but like you said, notice that they are all mainly small muscle groups, and this is a rare occurance within the Max OT mapped programs they have outlined. the majority of the time it is usually just 1-2 body parts per session, and the odd time there may be 3, but you can bet it is either forearms, or abs or calves included with either 2 other smaller body parts or one big one and two other smaller ones. You'll hardly never see something like back, chest, and shoulders..or any other combination of 3 majors grouped together.

[Todd]

Originally Posted by Firehawk

Hmm, now they are contradicting their own PDF file dude. I could swear i saw them say specifically for example, if you did chest and tris on the same day, there woudl be NO NEED to warm up the secondary muscle because its already WARMED UP!

This is how ive been doing max OT, and its been working ok for me...now as i said above, if I do shoulders/legs, i definitely warm both up....

Yah, I am sure it's not a HUGE deal if you didn't warm up the triceps after doing chest, but I know I always do, because directly working your triceps is a little different than them getting just secondary stress from say chest or shoulders. They probably are warmed up somewhat after doing those bodyparts first, but why chance anything. If they are warmed up 100%, then (at least I feel) you will be able to work them even better, in my own opinion. If you have had no probs then, hey go for it I guess!

The main thing here is that you make sure YOU know your body parts are good to go and ready to handle maximum poundage for your working sets..... that is what matters most.

[kungfu74]

I agree with both of you on the warmup and acclimation sets concerning the muscle groups... there are instances where I may do a warmup / acclimation set for my second muscle group and where I may not, for example last night I did back and Bi's. My first exersize was the 50 pullups, by the time i finished those and the few other exersizes outlined for my back I felt my bi's were plenty warmed up. most other occassions I will do the entire warmup / acclimation cycle for both muscle groups though... I guess I really just go by my day to day feeling on whether or not they are needed for my second muscle group.

[Firehawk]

The main thing here is that you make sure YOU know your body parts are good to go and ready to handle maximum poundage for your working sets..... that is what matters most.

heheehheheheheheheheheheh ... sorry, i was having a perverted moment :

Yeah, i know what you are saying. I just usually feel my triceps are ready to go after doing flat and incline bench.