Measuring Those Guns

[rookie]

if you do heavy deads than you dont need to do forearm isolation movements... when i do workout my forearms they get smaller...sounds weird but it's true.

[Vas85]

Originally Posted by Todd

Indeed...why only 60%? The stretch at the bottom of the movement is just as important (if not more so) than a full contraction at the top. You should always let the resistance stretch your lats fully on each rep for optimal stimulation.

I don't mean guys as in i start from fully contracted holding myself up high and go "down" 60% of the movement, i start fully stretched out and relaxed, and i only go "up" so to speak, so around 60%, little over half way (which is the just after the elbows are perpendicular to your forearms of the movement).

I figured any higher and it is just being totally useless to my lats, and being a lot more bi intensive, which is not my aim.

Here is a picture below, which gives the idea.
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6934/vaschin5yh.jpg
I start fully hanging down, thumbless grip, and only lift to have my upper arm as the line indicates, and no further. Done with varying width's of grip, but mainly just a little more than shoulder width.

[Khaine]

^^^^

Word, I can see how that could be beneficial... Lot of rear delt and bicep work for that final portion... Not that there's anything wrong wit that...

Originally Posted by rookie

if you do heavy deads than you dont need to do forearm isolation movements... when i do workout my forearms they get smaller...sounds weird but it's true.

Agreed... Except maybe Pronated Curls, which helped my forearms... Climbing and heavy Deadlifts are plenty tho...

And my forearms are roughly 13", far too big compared to the rest of my arm, but they look cool when I roll my sleeves up...

[MostMuscle]

17.25 inches here........working hard this off season to bring this weak point up.

[maverick]

Originally Posted by MostMuscle

17.25 inches here........working hard this off season to bring this weak point up.

Yeah, they sure do look tiny.

I'll give you a half inch off my arms for some of your back/quad width any day.

[threenorns]

agreed, mm: positively atrophied <rolling eyes>

[Todd]

Originally Posted by Vas85

I don't mean guys as in i start from fully contracted holding myself up high and go "down" 60% of the movement, i start fully stretched out and relaxed, and i only go "up" so to speak, so around 60%, little over half way (which is the just after the elbows are perpendicular to your forearms of the movement).

I figured any higher and it is just being totally useless to my lats, and being a lot more bi intensive, which is not my aim.

Here is a picture below, which gives the idea.
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6934/vaschin5yh.jpg
I start fully hanging down, thumbless grip, and only lift to have my upper arm as the line indicates, and no further. Done with varying width's of grip, but mainly just a little more than shoulder width.

I don't know, but I would say that going up only 60% is also not optimal, because you are not getting a full contraction in your lats. I mean if that is as far as you can possibly go with it, then ok, you are doing all you can, but if you can go up further, I would...because it will allow for a complete contraction in the lats and other back muscles. Just my .02 tho.

[Todd]

Originally Posted by MostMuscle

17.25 inches here........working hard this off season to bring this weak point up.

Swole looking arm there bro! Nice work! :

[threenorns]

Originally Posted by Vas85

I don't mean guys as in i start from fully contracted holding myself up high and go "down" 60% of the movement, i start fully stretched out and relaxed, and i only go "up" so to speak, so around 60%, little over half way (which is the just after the elbows are perpendicular to your forearms of the movement).

I figured any higher and it is just being totally useless to my lats, and being a lot more bi intensive, which is not my aim.

Here is a picture below, which gives the idea.
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6934/vaschin5yh.jpg
I start fully hanging down, thumbless grip, and only lift to have my upper arm as the line indicates, and no further. Done with varying width's of grip, but mainly just a little more than shoulder width.

try this: instead of concentrating on pulling yourself up, focus on pulling your elbows down. this will put more focus on pulling with your lats and not much on pulling with your biceps.

[scv2004]

17 inch arms are pretty good. I am currently 15 inches and my goal would be 18.

Originally Posted by MostMuscle

17.25 inches here.

Great job so far. You better watch out though - I'm only 2.25 inches behind you....give me about 10 more years and you will be PASSED.

You wouldn't mind waiting those 10 years would ya?

[Vas85]

Originally Posted by Todd

I don't know, but I would say that going up only 60% is also not optimal, because you are not getting a full contraction in your lats. I mean if that is as far as you can possibly go with it, then ok, you are doing all you can, but if you can go up further, I would...because it will allow for a complete contraction in the lats and other back muscles. Just my .02 tho.

Originally Posted by threenorns

try this: instead of concentrating on pulling yourself up, focus on pulling your elbows down. this will put more focus on pulling with your lats and not much on pulling with your biceps.

As 3N mentioned, i used to do them 3n with pulling my elbows down, which was like imagining pushing my chest higher, and i still didn't find it feeling optimal for my lats, rather optimal for my biceps. I don't think i was doing it wrong either, i know what i need to feel and how to feel it.

I used to do the full ROM 100% of the movement, it is very easy for me to pump out 12reps for like 6-7sets, but i dropped to 60% so that after i finished, i felt my lats very nicely worked, rather than my bi's.

[Khaine]

Originally Posted by MostMuscle

17.25 inches here........working hard this off season to bring this weak point up.

Yea you better... Girlyman...

Jesus christ look at that forearm...

[bryan182]

i'm up to 15inches from 14 at christmas. i think thats a pretty good improvement. i cut out most of my direct bicep work and only do 2 sets a week.

An inch in only a month?

Have you recently been involved in any irradiating type accidents and turned green by any chance?