Sponsor Our Community
Go Back   Discuss Fitness > Bodybuilding > General Bodybuilding

General Bodybuilding Forum for intermediate and experienced bodybuilders to learn and give advice.


Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 29-Jul-04, 07:09 PM   #1
DudeXCH
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 107
Send a message via AIM to DudeXCH

Muscular Endurance?


Hey everyone... it has been a while since i posted here, but i just had a random question:

What, exactly, is "muscular endurance" ?

I know that it refers to a muscle's capacity to perform an exercise for an extended period of time.
However, i was wondering what actually happens that causes an increase in muscular endurance.

Is it simply a neurolgical adaptation?
Is there a physical change in the composition of the muscle?
Are there any outward visible changes that result from increased muscular endurance (better vascularity maybe?)

My current goal is hypertrophy, so this isn't very important to me, but it was just something i was wondering about, and i would appreciate it if anyone could answer any of my questions.

Thanks!
Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!
DudeXCH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-Jul-04, 08:08 PM   #2
Cort
Registered User
 
Cort's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Portland, Or.
Age: 22
Posts: 3,961
Send a message via ICQ to Cort Send a message via AIM to Cort Send a message via Yahoo to Cort
I'm pretty sure having a dominance of slow-twitch muscle fibers is a big part of it. Also, if you train for endurance for a long time your fast-twitch fibers will change a bit to more resemble slow twitch and vice versa if you train in power/strength for a long time.
Cort is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-Jul-04, 08:14 PM   #3
smm3
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 218
Also has a lot to do with energy systems, alot of scientific mumbo-jumbo.
No outward signs though, vascularity comes when there is no fat between the skin and the muscles, pushing the veins out like some kinda road map.

Be careful with the word hypertrophy though. I've learned recently that there are two kinds (just passing along a lil knowledge). The one you are referring to is myofibrillar-the increase in size and thus strength of a muscle cell. The other is sarcoplasmic-the increase in amount of the stuff around the muscle cells. Ever see a bodybuilder in the gym, and his strength isn't as impressive as his pretty muscles. That's due to that sarcoplasmic hypertrophy.... :confused:
__________________
Do not try to be anything but what you are, and try to be that perfectly
smm3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-Jul-04, 05:31 PM   #4
DudeXCH
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 107
Send a message via AIM to DudeXCH
Thanks.

I think i need to achieve some sarcosplasmic hypertrophy lol....

I used to look much stronger than I was... but now the opposite is true, I'm much stronger than i look. It's almost as if my size gains have stopped while my strength has continued to increase, yet i haven't really changed my routine very much. Strange.

For example, in the last year my bench press has gone up over 20 lbs, yet i have remained virtually the same weight and same measurements.
DudeXCH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-Jul-04, 05:42 PM   #5
LifterMike
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Jax. Florida
Age: 21
Posts: 515
Send a message via AIM to LifterMike
dont forget though, that sarcoplasmic hypertrophy isnt all talk, most bodybuilders are pretty strong too, just not as much as powerlifters. :
__________________
http://www.discussfitness.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21134 Get HUGE!
LifterMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-Jul-04, 05:47 PM   #6
smm3
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 218
That's my favorite, Dude.

Being in the gym and somebody question the fact that you are about to throw up some mad weight....and you just rep it out.


....yep, doesn't get much better than that.
__________________
Do not try to be anything but what you are, and try to be that perfectly
smm3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-Jul-04, 12:53 AM   #7
abarlament
Registered User
 
abarlament's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Ohio University
Age: 22
Posts: 3,818
Send a message via AIM to abarlament Send a message via MSN to abarlament
Also Dude, there are different types of endurance. Being able to rep a high percent of your 1rm is different from running a marathon, in terms of the muscular activity.
abarlament is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-Jul-04, 02:13 AM   #8
KetoManiac
Registered User
 
KetoManiac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 692
Send a message via AIM to KetoManiac
Too things in general:
1. becoming more effecient at the particular energy system
2. domination of particular MHC isoform
KetoManiac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-Jul-04, 02:17 AM   #9
DaRkAnGel
Registered User
 
DaRkAnGel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Age: 20
Posts: 5,301
Send a message via AIM to DaRkAnGel Send a message via Yahoo to DaRkAnGel
Quote:
Originally Posted by smm3
Also has a lot to do with energy systems, alot of scientific mumbo-jumbo.
No outward signs though, vascularity comes when there is no fat between the skin and the muscles, pushing the veins out like some kinda road map.

Be careful with the word hypertrophy though. I've learned recently that there are two kinds (just passing along a lil knowledge). The one you are referring to is myofibrillar-the increase in size and thus strength of a muscle cell. The other is sarcoplasmic-the increase in amount of the stuff around the muscle cells. Ever see a bodybuilder in the gym, and his strength isn't as impressive as his pretty muscles. That's due to that sarcoplasmic hypertrophy.... :confused:
Haha you're learning. A little to add it's not really the size of the fiber that increases the weight you are able to use but the increased creatine phosphate and the neurological aspect play just as big of roles.
__________________
You will die, when i say, you will die, back to the front.
DaRkAnGel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-Jul-04, 11:30 AM   #10
smm3
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 218
Hells yeah, bro.

I recently had this excellent anatomy teacher who explained things so simply you couldn't help but learn. What he would say about sarcoplasm is that sarco refers to the sarcomere and plasm means "stuff" (not literally). So sarcoplasm is the "stuff" in the sarcomere.

Not very scientific, but it helps you remember the right answer for the tests.
__________________
Do not try to be anything but what you are, and try to be that perfectly
smm3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
bench press, muscle cell, muscle fiber, muscle fibers, muscular endurance, size gains, slow twitch, twitch muscle, twitch muscle fibers, vice versa



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Sitemap:1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23
Sponsor Our Community

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:32 PM.


vBulletin ©2004 Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©2004 DiscussFitness.com