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Old 19-Aug-06, 08:19 AM   #1
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New routine for mass, Please Critique


Hey I am looking at a new routine for the next 5-6 weeks. I will have very little stress for these weeks and can sleep 9 hours a night as well as take a nap in the day and ttime all my meals perfectly which im going to increase by 700 cals ie 4500. Basically my recovery power should be a lot better than normal so I want to take advantage of this and stress my body. I will be doing lower set volumes and with the increased recovery and limited to 5-6 weeks I believe I will avoid overtraining.

Day 1: Chest, tris, shoulders
3 work sets flat, 2 close grip, 3 dips, 2 shoulder press, 2 lat raises (11 sets)
4-8 reps for all sets

Day 2: Legs
3 squat, 2 lunges, 3 extensions, 4 hamstring curls 3 calves (15)

Day 3: rest

Day 4: Back traps bis
3 lat pull down, 3 rows, 3 close pull down 3 shrugs 2 curls (14)

Day 5: rest

Day 6: Chest tris shoulders
3 incline dumbbell, 3 dips 2 close gip, dumbell shoulder press, 2 rear delt raises

Day7: legs
3 leg press, 3 knee extension, 3 SLDL, 2 hamstring curls 3 calves

Day8: rest

Day 9: back traps bis
as day 4 but dumbell rows.

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Edit (21/08) I am changing this to a 6 day/8 days workout all 3 days on top of each other one off and start again and see how it goes.
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Old 19-Aug-06, 11:29 AM   #2
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I like your rotation on the exercises Max. My first question was "What? No SLDL's?" But then I saw them on your second rotation. You seem to be hitting everything thoroughly. What about chins insead of pulldowns on your second back rotation? And instead of close grip pulldowns, have you considered close grip low cable row, pulled to your belly? They always torch my lats. (Basically, I think it looks sound. These are just my exercise preferences).

Are you training to failure?

Smart planning to take advantage of a low stress point in you life.
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Old 19-Aug-06, 01:51 PM   #3
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I like your rotation on the exercises Max. My first question was "What? No SLDL's?" But then I saw them on your second rotation. You seem to be hitting everything thoroughly. What about chins insead of pulldowns on your second back rotation? And instead of close grip pulldowns, have you considered close grip low cable row, pulled to your belly? They always torch my lats. (Basically, I think it looks sound. These are just my exercise preferences).

Are you training to failure?

Smart planning to take advantage of a low stress point in you life.
Thanks for advice, chins would be included but gym is undergoing refurbishment no chin up bar. Low grip cable row will have to mve a machine but screw it good idea wasnt happy with back same so thats going to be included in back day 2.

Im going to train to failure but no partial reps forced reps negatives drop sets or repping out on a lower weight.

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So tried it today and by time hit shoulders had to drop 10kgs/ 9 reps over normal as a result of chest and dips before hand. I presume the shoulders were still hit maximally just tired from the compound movement before hand
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Bump for opinions on workout/modifications !!!!
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Would it not be better to separate out shoulders from chest day?

Shoulders are gonna be kind of dead after chest workout (well mine always are)

also I know ur looking at a period of mass building but surely u still need to include some core work for abs?
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Would it not be better to separate out shoulders from chest day?

Shoulders are gonna be kind of dead after chest workout (well mine always are)

also I know ur looking at a period of mass building but surely u still need to include some core work for abs?
You can say that again shoulders were dead -cant believe i tweaked my left shoulder again on very last rep-. However they are dead because they are worked hard I find chest work develops my shoulders and now I am going to finish them off. I am going to do each workout twice a week so cant afford to separate for recovery and beklieve to hit chest back and legs fresh will cover whole body.

For core I will add in planks and some ab pulldowns on leg day no sit upus extra just exercises for stability.

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