peeing blood?

**threenorns** · 23-Jun-05, 12:37 PM

started this morning, went to the hospital, they can't find any reason for it except maybe it's an extremely rare reaction to ibuprofen (been taking it for tendonitis). dr said it usually happens with high doses but mine were well within safe limits. no pain, no fever, no sign of infection, kidneys are fine.

a friend of mine said that horses and sled dogs will piss blood if they've been overloaded - does that hold for humans, too?

Zeldmon · 23-Jun-05, 01:19 PM

It could just be an infection. Did the dr say anything about that?

**threenorns** · 23-Jun-05, 01:25 PM

no sign of it - temp 36C (no fever). preliminary bloodwork normal. the rest of the test results come back sunday, kidney ultrasound monday, specialist after that, depending.

i'm kinda scratching my head - but i'm suspecting the ibuprofen unless there's some funky-ass way i've discovered to cause renal damage?

Zeldmon · 23-Jun-05, 01:37 PM

Well good luck with the test results. Maybe you can test out your ibuprofen theory if the results don't give any answers...

Shamrock · 23-Jun-05, 03:44 PM

Get in a fight and take a shot to the kidney?
Ahhh, houseleague hockey......

Any change in diet or routine?

Merrida · 23-Jun-05, 03:51 PM

Wow, I've never heard of that reaction to ibuprofen before. I know there's lots I don't know, but gosh, that's a new one on me.

How does your back feel? Have you been "impacted" at all, such as,...do you take judo and have you landed on your back during a throw? Have you been hit in the back? Punched, backed into anything, ....and everything else along those lines?

Usually blood in the urine isn't dismissed so readily.

Was it analyzed as blood or are you going based on what it looks like?

**threenorns** · 23-Jun-05, 06:05 PM

yep - lab test confirmed it and it was pretty obvious: solid red (not just a light tint, i mean). worth a double-take from the nurse, anyway.

no impacts that i'm aware of - but i'm pretty oblivious to that sort of thing, being a bit of a klutz. the doctor examined my torso and didn't find any bruising that would be expected from such a hit.

i went googling around and found some cases of renal damage from lifting heavy weights, but they were all accompanied by pain.

back's sore, but it could just be DOMs.

i stopped the ibuprofen and it's eased up considerably - damn. looks like i'll have to grit the teeth when i get headaches...

Merrida · 23-Jun-05, 06:41 PM

Ever try Excedrin? Great for headaches: Acetaminophen, Aspirin, and Caffeine. Good combo.

There are a HOST of alternatives to treat pain (headache and otherwise) other than ibuprofen....so having to suck it up for a headache shouldn't be a concern. Granted, each person has their own sensitivities, allergies, etc., and maybe some meds work better than others....

Ever taken Ibuprofen before? If you have and didn't pee blood, it's sorta doubtful it caused it all of a sudden. Not impossible, but unusual.

**threenorns** · 24-Jun-05, 12:51 AM

been taking it for years, never had a problem before. i liked it because it didn't give me gut-rot the way acetominophen and aspirin do.

ah well, we'll find out. i'm not day (that was the third question i asked the doctor:

can i still go to the gym? (most definitely)
what about sex and swimming? (sex is fine, but stay out of water in case it's a silent bladder infection)
am i dying? ("...........you have very interesting priorities")

Merrida · 24-Jun-05, 09:53 AM

I had to laugh at your list 3, because I get the same thing from my doc.... if something comes up that we're dealing with, usually the first thing I ask him is: will this impact my lifting.

Then, eventually, we get onto things like, what are the side effects, what other tests, what can I do and not do...

And he says the same thing to me.

But I've been with him for so long now (in fact I got him into power lifting, and he transformed his physique so much wanna know something cool...? He got asked to be in a TV commercial, AND he even has picked up patients, on a professional level mind you, at the gym, when people realize here was a doctor who had such interests). He's even worked with people who are juicing. He doesn't condone/prescribe it, but people know that if they're going to do it, that he is willing to do things like maintain their blood work and physicals to keep an eye on them (which is better than someone doing it blind).

That's something he never would have done before....but he said he now "understands" their motive....can't agree or support it, but if he can help prevent someone from getting hurt who is doing this, he'll do it.

He even lextures at various clubs and at universities about exercise physiology. (Not teaches, he lectures).

Amkey · 24-Jun-05, 09:58 AM

I happen to be an expert for the exact exact same thing.

I peed and the toilet filled with what looked like V8. No pain no nothing. I freaked out because it was blood only. I did not see any sign of urine. I went to the doctor after calling the hospital. I had HUGE amounts of blood in my urine. I had very little urine in my urine. They called it Gross Hematuria. I went through every test in the book including a Cystoscopy. They could not find anything wrong with me at all especially since I had no pain whatsoever. I did all kinds of IVP's and everything. Cat scans, MRI's and still no one found anything. The visable blood went away but I still had abnormal amounts of blood in my urine. Well after all these tests of ruling out stuff like cancer, kidney failure, and stones my uriolgist wanted to do one last test to rule everything out. He described it to me as very evasive and more or less the put a cathader directly into my kidney and flush it with dye and then take pictures. They would slice my abdomen and put about an inch diameter tube directly into my kidney. All of this with only a Valium. I did a bunch of research on the net about Gross Hematuria and found out that they never try to find the cause of it but more rule out serious causes. I felt that all the crappy test I went through ruled out everything so I declined that test. I have not seen blood in my urine since then, but I do get it tested every papsmear. I do know if you are a runner then there is a thing called runners bladder that is like that.

**threenorns** · 24-Jun-05, 10:00 AM

that's exactly the same as what happened to me!

wierd....

Merrida · 24-Jun-05, 10:06 AM

You guys both have definitely got one up on me, I've never had that. Blood in my urine has always been a concern (for other reasons) but I've never experienced that.

I just find it so amazing that the infamous "they" cannot account for this blood. You'd think they could tell where the blood CAME from (ie: was it venal, renal, from the bladder, etc.) -- analyzing the blood should yield something abnormal (blood where it shouldn't be should contain something, even in minute quantities to suggest something,....)

<<Gosh that was so well worded -- my English teachers are ALL flopping over in their graves.>>

That would totally freak me out.

Hats off to you ladies for enduring the massive amounts of testing you both were willing to undergo.

**threenorns** · 24-Jun-05, 10:08 AM

they did say mine was apparently from the kidneys, but couldn't account for the absence of pain.

i have to have a kidney ultrasound :P

Merrida · 24-Jun-05, 10:14 AM

At least that is not invasive. It's cold, (I swear they keep that gel in the friggin' fridge before they apply it to your flesh!), but at least it isn't like they're wanting to stick a catheter up through your urethra into your kidneys (that sounds so painful just writing it -- not that catheters alone are all that pleasant, especially on the way out).

I never learned to read or interpret an ultrasound so when I see them, they all look the same to me, just these conical shapes of waves and lines. Those techies must be good! But hey, if you're due for an ultrasound, at least you'll be comfy.

Be glad they're not doing a type of ultrasound where you have to keep a full bladder!

They doing both kidneys?