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05-Aug-05, 05:47 AM
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Pullovers Myth
Do pullovers whether barbell or dumbbell really enlarge the thorax?
I've heard that there has never been any substancial proof to this.
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05-Aug-05, 08:35 AM
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Hi Drama Queen
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i know a professional trainer who has seen it in action. it works by stretching the cartilege between the joints.
or something like that.
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Last edited by threenorns; 05-Aug-05 at 08:38 AM.
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05-Aug-05, 09:18 AM
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http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...BPullover.html
^^ That what your talking about?
I have never seen someone do that. looks unatural.
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05-Aug-05, 09:20 AM
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Hi Drama Queen
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i've done that exercise. feels good.
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27/01/06: bench - 170; squat - 195 (wrapped); deadlift - 210; total - 575; need - 617; to go - 42
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05-Aug-05, 09:35 AM
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I do them with a DB. Straight arms to emphasize the chest, bent arms for the lats.
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05-Aug-05, 09:52 AM
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A special thanks to Maverick for the straight arm and bent alternatives. Cheers!
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05-Aug-05, 09:52 AM
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I do something like that, except - My back & butt are totally supported by the bench
- I don't pull the weight up beyond the 45 degree mark (since it's from that point that the load is reduced from you triceps and transfered as a vertical load to the delts).
As far as enlargment of the thorax is concerned, it recruits a whole batch of chest & abdominal muscle. It seems that from that perspective, the thorax would become 'enlarged'.
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05-Aug-05, 12:12 PM
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Hi Drama Queen
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what the trainer told me was that the ribcage itself actually increased in girth by at least a little bit.
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05-Aug-05, 12:45 PM
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An old school myth.
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05-Aug-05, 03:39 PM
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I tell you what mostmuscle, your in pretty bloody good shape. Do I have a hope in hell being a hardgainer of getting that physique?
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05-Aug-05, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MostMuscle
An old school myth.
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Perhaps it is , but a great deal of the old time lifters used that movment and many of them have tremendous rib cages (Bob Hoffman for example). I used to do them when I was teen (supersetted with squats), and I really can't say it didn't help.
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05-Aug-05, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MostMuscle
An old school myth.
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Yup. Just another myth. But like Cursor said, it builds the muscles of the thorax so maybe that's why people think expands the rib cage. It is a good exercise.
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05-Aug-05, 05:34 PM
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If nothing else it gives you a good stretch. BTDT
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05-Aug-05, 05:50 PM
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Perhaps I should of explained.....
It is a great exercise, but does not expand your ribcage although the muscles in the area will grow and may give the effect of a wider grip cage.
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