Shoulder shrugs

[Blaze]

Those are power lifts, which are meant to be one swift, 'jerk' of a movement. What we're talking about are simple shrugs, which are not meant to be jerked or thrown up. It's a slow controlled movement, which isolates the muscle much better.
Compound movements such as cleans are different.

[luke.w]

Right, your disscussing the guys who jerk the weights they have no buiness even doing and CALLING them shrugs.

I do agree that rolling the shoulders has nothing to do with perfroming a shrug and definatley shouldn't be done.

[.V.]

At least they are trying - show them the right way.

[Blaze]

I tried man...you know how some short-lived gym enthusiasts can be....won't listen to a word....Cuz of course they know everything!

[.V.]

I guess then just wish them well and set a good example.

[mmuscle]

I've been looking out for people performing shoulder shrugs lately at the gym and have noticed that most people sem to use the incorrect form.

[Klinger]

Originally Posted by a_welch503

At least they are trying - show them the right way.

The other thing I see all the time is guys doing so-called "lateral raises." Instead of raising the weight in a controlled fashion and lowering it the same way, they use momentum to throw the weight up in a fast-moving arc. I mean, why even bother? If you want muscle development, swallow your pride, cut that weight in half and do it right, you know?

[Blaze]

Originally Posted by Klinger

If you want muscle development, swallow your pride, cut that weight in half and do it right, you know?

I agree 100%. That will at least build muscle for later, when you heighten the weight...otherwise, there will be no improvement.

[Gooseneck]

I use dumbells, (between 60-90 lbs), and go straight up and down. Upright rows are actually bad for the shoulder joints as it puts a compression load on the socket. Steer clear of dips, upright rows, behind the neck presses or pulls. These will mess you up in the long run.

[luke.w]

dips (weighted) are a wonderful exercise.

[Gooseneck]

Originally Posted by luke.w

dips (weighted) are a wonderful exercise.

Not if you're predisposed to shoulder problems or have an injury already. They're about the worse thing you can do. I know from experience.

[luke.w]

Thats true, but it all depends on the injury and how bad it is, so if you think like that, you might as well add "benching" to the list also, you do what feels right for you and your body, the right way.

[tim_mcf]

So what is proper form, if you're not supposed to roll your shoulders? I thought you were supposed to kind of lift straight up, then roll around backwards and down, but obviously not...

[Gooseneck]

Straight up and straight down. Roll your shoulders to stretch them out a little bit, this is also good for the rotator cuff, but DO NOT use any weights.