Sleep!

Blaze · 07-Mar-06, 11:52 AM

My main question I guess is how much is sleep really related to muscle growth, and overall health...I know ALOT...but I would kinda like to know the details and science of it.

The thing is, is I get 8-9 hours of sleep a night, which I think is really good, especially for someone like me, who loves the night life and hates to go to bed. But Im still really tired when I have to get up, and normally later on in the day I can fall back asleep in front of the T.V. or something with no problem at all...I'm assuming its just me who is probably genetically inclined to get more sleep or something, but its quite frustrating

JMike · 07-Mar-06, 11:58 AM

Dumb question, but you're eating and drinking right right

? Dehydration can completly exhaust you, and there's nothing like a bowl of porridge to start your day off right.

Also, you might want to check your routine. Do you shower before you have breakfast? Changing things like that around can affect your day.

Mike

Blaze · 07-Mar-06, 12:55 PM

Yeah I do shower before I eat breakfast, but...I didn't think eating 10-15 minutes before I normally do could hurt that much lol
And I doubt it's dehydration. I drink about a gallon of water a day, or more. Plus juices and milk.

Zackoz · 07-Mar-06, 02:43 PM

I have exactly the same problem....

Gilogy · 07-Mar-06, 03:43 PM

May want to look at the quality of sleep you are getting. While 8-9 hours is normally sufficient, if it is poor quality or interrupted, you will not feel fully rested.

Some items that can hinder sleep are: poor mattress, poor air quality, surrounding noise, eating too late, alcohol, reaction to certain supplements, snoring (you or someone else's), sleep apnea, aspects of one's nightlife.

JMike · 07-Mar-06, 03:51 PM

Blaze, I didn't mean the timing of things, more the ordering. Some people benefit from 10-15mins of quiet time after they wake up to start things burning before their shower. Breakfast can be a good way to chill out before really getting the day started. I tend to eat without the tv/radio on so I can think through my day, remember to phone the plumber etc. Some me time, y'know? But it's a personal thing, and it's only a small aspect. Tiny things like where your bed is in relation to the door can really affect your sleep. It sounds dumb I know, but it's true (to an extent). And if you're not getting the sleep you need, you may as well play around with these things.

Mike

KaiserSose · 07-Mar-06, 05:33 PM

I got the same problem man. Honestly, I think it also has a lot to do with our age and our lifestyle. All my roommates sleep at least that much when they can.

Blaze · 07-Mar-06, 05:38 PM

So your saying like, time to sit down and wake up, before I start doing my normal routine. I could try it, but Im normally fine after my shower, its just getting out of bed where Im dead.
I dont have sleep apnea, I know that. I don't snore. As far as I know, which isnt much, I thought my sleep is pretty good quality
I mean Ive never had any problem getting to sleep or waking up alot in the night or anything, so Im not sure
As far as noise goes, noise helps me sleep. That is, example, radio, fan...something

stretchMk · 07-Mar-06, 10:33 PM

i heard something like if you go to bed past a certain time (say, 2 am for example) your body won't recover fully no matter how much sleep you have. but then, i am sure that 2am is just a number to different people since there are people who go to sleep at like 5am every morning. so, maybe that night you were just too tired and past the critical point that your body can fully recover? just 2 cents.

Blaze · 08-Mar-06, 12:21 PM

It's just THAT night though, its everynight. haha

Rats! · 11-Mar-06, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by stretchMk

i heard something like if you go to bed past a certain time (say, 2 am for example) your body won't recover fully no matter how much sleep you have. but then, i am sure that 2am is just a number to different people since there are people who go to sleep at like 5am every morning. so, maybe that night you were just too tired and past the critical point that your body can fully recover? just 2 cents.

What you say might have some merit. For most people, 2am is about the time when melatonin levels peak, unless they have adjusted their internal clock to stay awake at night, which is what you would do if say you worked graveyard.

I rarely get more than 6.5 hours of sleep a night. I have to be up at 5:30 for work and I try to get in bed at 10:30, but even then it takes me about a half hour to fall asleep. When I get home at 3-4pm I'll take a 1 hour nap and that will keep me going through the evening. If I nap longer than an hour then I won't be able to get to sleep until midnight and that will totally mess me up. On my days off though, I get at least 9 hours of straight sleep without a single piss break. Then when I wake up I piss like Austin Powers when he got cryogenically unfrozen.

Maxgain · 11-Mar-06, 05:16 PM

after 2 am Gh release is greatly reduced and the period of repair and recuperation is now compromised. A large period of cortisol reduction has alos not being taken advantage off. This is all denoted by Circadian rythm and for people on night shifts their body will adjust but never fully.

stretchMk · 14-Mar-06, 01:41 AM

thanks for the explaination. Now, instead of just saying "i heard someone said," i know more.

thanks!

killerduck · 19-Mar-06, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Blaze

My main question I guess is how much is sleep really related to muscle growth, and overall health...I know ALOT...but I would kinda like to know the details and science of it.

The thing is, is I get 8-9 hours of sleep a night, which I think is really good, especially for someone like me, who loves the night life and hates to go to bed. But Im still really tired when I have to get up, and normally later on in the day I can fall back asleep in front of the T.V. or something with no problem at all...I'm assuming its just me who is probably genetically inclined to get more sleep or something, but its quite frustrating

i had this problem until the start of this week. it seamed like no matter how long i slept for i would never feel fully fresh. Well, since tuesday i have been taking a weight loss suppliment called thermobol which basically boosts your metabolism so you burn more calories a day. The first night i took it i didnt get to speel until about 2am and i was thinking that i am going to be a total wreck the next day. But it turned out i was fine and fully alert. I am still taking thermobol and havn't really been tired all week. I have also lost 3 lbs this week so it cant be bad. i suggest you sleepy people look into getting some thermobol.