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Old 21-Jun-05, 10:27 AM   #1
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I have breakfest lunch and dinner. I need to know what a good snack would be between breakfest at 7 and lunch at 12 would be. Also what a good snack between 1230 and 7 would be. I need something healthy and economical. I have been eating trail mix and i dont no how good of a snack that is need a opinion on that aswell
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Old 21-Jun-05, 11:16 AM   #2
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What are you trying to achieve with your diet (weight loss/gain, fat loss/?gain?).

What are you eating at your other meal times ?

What sort of training are you doing in the meantime ?

Need more info to address the question properly, but for a general answer to a general question, food.

Oh and I rate trail mix highly, I used to make my own with nuts/dried fruits and chocolate chips ... great for climbing trips or munching on in a boring lecture. Can tend to be high fat though (this personally does not bother me but I have a metabolism faster than .... well a really fast thing ).

Fill us in on some details and see what the experienced folk round here have got to say.
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Old 21-Jun-05, 11:41 AM   #3
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Sorry I should have posted that. Well I am trying to gain muscle mass and loose weight I know its a tough thing to do and is not recommended. I am going heavy at the momet. I am just trying to stay healthy. I was 6'0 235 and now i am down to 215 and still have weight to loose. I do cardio 3-4 times a week running and playing basketball. I have eggs in the morning tuna for lunch and some kind of lean meat for dinner. I want to get healthy and fit into some old pants of mine. Just graduated and need to loose the excess weight i gained in college. I wont loose that much weight while putting on mass and I lost a lot of weight while cutting up.
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Old 21-Jun-05, 12:32 PM   #4
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Sorry I should have posted that. Well I am trying to gain muscle mass and loose weight I know its a tough thing to do and is not recommended. I am going heavy at the momet. I am just trying to stay healthy. I was 6'0 235 and now i am down to 215 and still have weight to loose. I do cardio 3-4 times a week running and playing basketball. I have eggs in the morning tuna for lunch and some kind of lean meat for dinner. I want to get healthy and fit into some old pants of mine. Just graduated and need to loose the excess weight i gained in college. I wont loose that much weight while putting on mass and I lost a lot of weight while cutting up.

that whole "not recommended" thing for gaining mass and losing fat is a myth that was solidly debunked a while ago. it does require you to pay far closer attention to your eating than most ppl want to invest. basically, you need to eat more protein to fuel muscle growth but shave back the carbs enough that you burn more fat as fuel. i'd also recommend HIIT (12 minutes guerilla cardio or 16 minutes MaxOT, f.ex.) over low-intensity.

stop thinking in terms of "weight" - think in terms of fat. i'm 200 at 5'2" - i'd be happy to stay 200 at 5'2" so long as my body fat was between 15% and 20%.

what's your weight training system? i see a lot of cardio but not much (if anything) about weights.
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Old 21-Jun-05, 12:43 PM   #5
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Well here is my routine Chest one day legs the next then break for cardio then back and tris the next day and on the fouth day shouders and bis and then a one day break for cardio. I do 2 on 1 off for cardio and take a day break in the middle some where. Should I eat protein bars for my snack in the day time to get more protein in my diet. I only drink water all day with a slurpee once in a while. HOw are slurpess nutrition wise?
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how are slurpees, nutrition-wise!?

they're sugar, water, artificial colouring, and artificial flavour - you tell me.

okay, so now we know what body parts you're working - but what is your *routine*? how many sets? what weight?

as for protein bars, how much protein do you need and how much are you getting now?

you really need to give data for anyone to provide you with meaningful information.
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Old 21-Jun-05, 01:29 PM   #7
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Bit slurpees tast soo good on a hot day. ah well
I am doing 4 excersizes for each muscle. for the first two i do 4 sets and the 2nd two i do 3 sets. ofcourse with warms ups
Chest flat 90lbs dumbells
chest incline 185 inlcine barbell
cables flies
dumbells flies
dumbell over my head laying on a bench
Legs
Squats
dead lift
extension
curls
calf raises
Back
pull ups
bentover rows dumbell 85lbs
wide grip rows.
close grip pull down
Tris
close grip bench 175 barbell
skull crushers 105 curlbar
french press 85lb dumbell
tri pull down one arm
shoulders
militart press 80lb dumbbell
dumbell raise to the sides 25lbs
str8 bar pull to the chins 100lbs
shrugs 90lb dumbells
bis str8 bar curl 105
dumbell 45 to 50 lbs
reverse curl bar 85lbs
one arm curl ar cables
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Old 21-Jun-05, 01:53 PM   #8
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you're not warming up each exercise, are you? if so, stop. just warm up each body part ONCE - any more than that is wasted energy. examine the MaxOT warmup system for an example of a proper warmup and loading routine.

so how much protein are you actually taking in? aim for about 1.5g per pound of lean mass (weight - fat) or for the sake of argument, let's say 1g per day of total weight. depending on who you talk to and on your physiology, this number changes considerably, but 1g/day is a good start and it makes math easier.

a 20 yr old man, 6' tall, weighing 215 and requires 3700 calories a day (roundabout) if he's very active, 3200 a day if he's moderately active. that gives you an average between the two of 3450 per day. pick a number and drop it by 500 cal/day to lose 1lb a week which is slow, gentle, and easily sustainable. let's say for the sake of argument that you've dropped to 2950 per day.

so you know you need about 215g of protein (4cal/gram) per day - that's 860 calories. out of the 2950, leaving you with 2090 calories to divvy up between carbs (4cal/gram) and fat (9cal/gram).

at 215 grams, your protein is at about 30% of your intake, your carbs should therefore be about 50% (1475cal/369 g), and the remaining 20% should be fats (590cal/65g). don't just glomp all protein in one meal etc - each meal should contain all three with your post workout meal being slightly richer in protein and your post cardio meal being a bit richer in carbs.

now you know how to do the math, you can work out what to do.
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