Something strange happened to me in the gym today!

Kano5 · 10-Jul-04, 06:09 AM

Right this may sound really stupid but something very strange happened to me in the gym today. Basically, I had done 4 sets of light squats to warm up and then did 7 sets of heavy deadlift, moved on to do 7 sets of shrugs and then 6 sets of bench. Well anyway by the time I got to the bench press I felt very strange, as if I was drunk or something (I wasnt drunk by the way). I think I over did it a little bit, and was going to stop because I didnt feel too great. However, my bench press press was huge (even though I was feeling dodgy), I outdid my previous best by 20 kilos. Finished off with some back excercises and some abs then went home and have felt dodgy for the last 2 hours. Has this happened to anyone else before and anyone got any ideas as to what happened to me?

DaRkAnGel · 10-Jul-04, 06:25 AM

I don't know what you've been doing to gain 20 kilos in one session especially with a routine like that. I hope you know that what you did today was way overdone and entirely pointless.

I am just going to assume that you are new to training cause gaining 20 kilos from workouts like those unless you're on heavy doses of some good stuff doesn't happen.

abarlament · 10-Jul-04, 09:32 AM

How many reps in a set were you doing?

LifterMike · 10-Jul-04, 10:21 AM

are you on some type of steroid or prohormone? thats alot of weight improvement and a very high volume workout. :confused:

Plucas8916 · 10-Jul-04, 11:54 AM

No reason to say that what he did was pointless.. If he has the right genetics I bet he could gain a lot from just doing completely random stuff like that. I know someone that will workout (bench) twice a day and they bench easily 250... I dont like the kid at all because I have to work like crazy to get those kinds of weights, but he can eat whatever... doesn't take protein shakes, doesn't carb load before a workout. Thats why I think some of this weightlifting crap about overtraining and YOU HAVE to do this is just B.S. because he does fine and he could CARE LESS about a site like this.. (This is why it bothers me so much) Oh and did I mention he also has a six pack while gaining weight on his bench...

armorforsleep · 10-Jul-04, 01:37 PM

I think you got a huge adrenaline rush while doing such a heavy workout. You weren't thinking about the weight you were lifting because you were "drunk" and thus didn't let psychology limit the amount you can lift due to usual fear or whatever. You basically put your body to the limit.

Or what the people above me said... druggie

DaRkAnGel · 10-Jul-04, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Plucas8916

No reason to say that what he did was pointless.. If he has the right genetics I bet he could gain a lot from just doing completely random stuff like that. I know someone that will workout (bench) twice a day and they bench easily 250... I dont like the kid at all because I have to work like crazy to get those kinds of weights, but he can eat whatever... doesn't take protein shakes, doesn't carb load before a workout. Thats why I think some of this weightlifting crap about overtraining and YOU HAVE to do this is just B.S. because he does fine and he could CARE LESS about a site like this.. (This is why it bothers me so much) Oh and did I mention he also has a six pack while gaining weight on his bench...

Managing volume is what its about. Training history also matters - olympic lifters from Bulgaria for instance train several times a day.

There is such a thing as overtraining and you better believe it happens.

DaRkAnGel · 10-Jul-04, 02:59 PM

Just for your info I don't carbload before a workout either and some studies have shown that whey is absorbed too fast in order to help with prolonged protein synthesis, which is where eating a lot of slow-digesting proteins help.

DaRkAnGel · 10-Jul-04, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by abarlament

How many reps in a set were you doing?

Sorry that's a valid question, i completely overlooked that yesterday.

Plucas8916 · 11-Jul-04, 01:53 AM

No I understand the concept of overtraining, I'm just saying I dont think it has to apply to everyone, depending on the style of training they choose. And the thing about the whey protein... exactly its a study-- which means that I might absorb whey 50 times faster than someone else, were not all the same. Unless the study was with 3000 participants I dont really trust it, and even your Ava. is "I like whey" and there you are bashing it. So obviously you think it works but your also saying theres studies that say it doesn't.

Plucas8916 · 11-Jul-04, 01:53 AM

If some of that doesn't make sense, sorry. I'm not a good.. umm... internet writer.. haahhaha

DaRkAnGel · 11-Jul-04, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Plucas8916

No I understand the concept of overtraining, I'm just saying I dont think it has to apply to everyone, depending on the style of training they choose. And the thing about the whey protein... exactly its a study-- which means that I might absorb whey 50 times faster than someone else, were not all the same. Unless the study was with 3000 participants I dont really trust it, and even your Ava. is "I like whey" and there you are bashing it. So obviously you think it works but your also saying theres studies that say it doesn't.

I take whey protein for 2 reasons:

1. Easy calories
2. Just in case it can actually help me

Plucas8916 · 11-Jul-04, 11:39 AM

Fair enough, I do too. haha

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jukka · 12-Jul-04, 03:53 AM

I think high quality whey rules!!

I took it at some poin in my training, just about 100 grams a day,
and man, you could almost see my muscles getting rounder!

And I didn't even eat that much protein in the form or refular food,
just and odd chicken breast every now and then, not even every day!

It's just that with my current financial situation, quality whey is too expensive for me to use.
And using some low quality stuff is next to worthless.
Tried that too, and learned the hard way that quality most definitely costs. And in this case low quality means no quality.

Same thing with creatine: I'm not lobbying for Twinlab, but it's the only name brand I've used, didn't even do any loading up phase, and still experienced improvements that ranged from nice to ridiculous.

And with less-established brands (tried two of them), I noticed no change whatsoever.

DaRkAnGel · 12-Jul-04, 05:29 AM

That's kind of me with dymatize... i wonder if it'sjust the quality.