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I'm saying that doing these "shoulder" exercises week after week and this "socalled" good form,...... may not be good, using only the shoulders to do these exercises week in/week out hurts the joint.
I steer clear from this type of training, I use other muscles to move the weight, only from time to time I'll use this "socalled" good form.
I never do laterials, but at one time I was doing laterial "holds" I'd take two bells and use other muscles to help get them out to the sides and just hold them sometimes walk while doing them this keeps the jiont strong and prevents the wear and tear in them, I do the same with overhead lifts, I've increased my abilty to muscle weights out to the sides more easier now, without even doing it much, this also builds the back muscles.
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