Super squats???

[maverick]

I'm just full of surprises

[Firehawk]

Arent we all?

[DBZ Status]

Originally Posted by maverick

I ALWAYS use a bar pad. Its kinda one of those things that I never saw a point to "getting used to". Its not like you are gaining more from the exercise by causing bruises.

I love 20 rep squats. Well, as much as you can love them. Unless my groin is acting up (hurts if I go deep sometimes), I always do full squats. 225x20 was about as good as I ever got on those, but I'm hoping to pass it up once my groin heals.

About the bar pad i noticed when i developed my traps and neck the bar stopped bruising and hurting my neck. When your new and dont have those muscles developed you should most definitely use a pad.

Mav I also have pulled my groin before. I dont know if u have any specific warm ups you do but i usually run a bit and use the inductor or abductor i forget which ones which to loosen up my groin. If anyone doesnt nkow what those are they are the ones where u sit down and the pads are on your knees and you push in and out. I used the one where you push in with really light weight to warm up my groins.

[luke.w]

Originally Posted by Firehawk

Is it really building a tolerance to pain when dealing with the squat bar on your back, or is it more of the body adapting to the bar being there? I dont have any pain there anymore, doesn't mean though that my tolerance is higher does it? I dont know, maybe it does... I just think my body adapted and changed whatever it needed to change back there so that i no longer have any pain.

You make a good piont, however when dealing with a NEW HEAVIER weight, your going to have to try and BLOCKOUT the pain, this is building a high pain tolerance, Try to hold over 900 on your back CONSISTANLY, (or over 1,000, and keep going up) and you'll see, it always hurts, you always have to blockout the pain, but the body also becomes adapted, so it's really a progress in BOTH of these.

[Vas85]

Luke, how much weight we talking about it becoming a problem? I dont use a pad for bruising.. i'm fine with that they dont bruise up, but my skin actually tears quickly... like ill get stretch marks where I dont want them.

My traps are fine to handle the weight.. its just my skin isn't.. for some reason... becuase about a year ago I was doing squats once and i had two pretty long 4cm or so lines on each side of my traps, not bruises... but like red lines that were there for a week it didn't hurt just didn't look right... that's why I use a pad.

[luke.w]

it's the same thing with gripping a deadlift, it always hurts at the caluoses.

hookgrip you can toughen,adapt, ect. up the thumbs for that pain, BUT THE PAIN WILL ALWAYS BE THERE, thats when you ignore that think in your brain that tells you "this hurts" (the governor), sometimes having your mindset on the lift can make you forget about it (sometimes my warm-ups hurt more than my PR's, cause I'm not really thinking "do or die" with a lift, and my brain feels the pain more)

when the governor comes to town (when your brain says this hurts) and you fight it, you toughen up mentally, I know some don't what that, but I do.

I haven't done a hookgrip with over 400 for sometime, lastnight I did, it freakin hurt!!!!

[luke.w]

Originally Posted by Vas85

Luke, how much weight we talking about it becoming a problem? I dont use a pad for bruising.. i'm fine with that they dont bruise up, but my skin actually tears quickly... like ill get stretch marks where I dont want them.

Vas, I'm not really sure, it only seems like it MAY be a problem, I'm thinking the 300-400lb mark, also that pad takes the bar farther off the back,I'd think that mechanically hurts squatting form?

[luke.w]

Originally Posted by Firehawk

Is it really building a tolerance to pain when dealing with the squat bar on your back, or is it more of the body adapting to the bar being there? I dont have any pain there anymore, doesn't mean though that my tolerance is higher does it?

I keep posting, but this one is sorta a brainer.

Firehawk, if I told you that holding 600-700lbs on my back doesn't have any pain or a stinging sensation on the skin, or holding a measly 150lb in ea. hand dosen't feel painful in my hands, I'd be a "fibber", I've adapted my body to much more, but the pain is still there.
heck, if I'm doing lighter squats or jerks behind the neck with under 250lbs sometimes the bar is set a tad higher, I feel pain in the area, it's a pressure sotra pain.

[Dan C]

Originally Posted by Vas85

Luke, how much weight we talking about it becoming a problem? I dont use a pad for bruising.. i'm fine with that they dont bruise up, but my skin actually tears quickly... like ill get stretch marks where I dont want them.

My traps are fine to handle the weight.. its just my skin isn't.. for some reason... becuase about a year ago I was doing squats once and i had two pretty long 4cm or so lines on each side of my traps, not bruises... but like red lines that were there for a week it didn't hurt just didn't look right... that's why I use a pad.

The red marks you're talking about are basically "hickey's"... you've got blood being forced to the surface of the skin, probably from broken capillaries. This is different than the more permanant "stretch marks" and will go away. As your skin toughens you will stop getting them.

Just consider them your "battle wounds" for the time being

[Dan C]

Originally Posted by DBZ Status

About the bar pad i noticed when i developed my traps and neck the bar stopped bruising and hurting my neck. When your new and dont have those muscles developed you should most definitely use a pad.

Mav I also have pulled my groin before. I dont know if u have any specific warm ups you do but i usually run a bit and use the inductor or abductor i forget which ones which to loosen up my groin. If anyone doesnt nkow what those are they are the ones where u sit down and the pads are on your knees and you push in and out. I used the one where you push in with really light weight to warm up my groins.

Just remember:

Adductors bring together
Abductors move apart

[Vas85]

Originally Posted by Dan C

The red marks you're talking about are basically "hickey's"... you've got blood being forced to the surface of the skin, probably from broken capillaries. This is different than the more permanant "stretch marks" and will go away. As your skin toughens you will stop getting them.

Just consider them your "battle wounds" for the time being

Ohh ok.. i thought that I would always get them constantly which is why i resorted to using the bar. You learn something everyday on DiscussFitness it seems! hehe thanks!