Tendonitous blast it

[bodyshop20]

Been training real heavy, well much heavier than normal.
Trying 5x5 system.
I now have real bed on fire pain in my elbows when i curl or any movement that involves pulling using bicep.
It stopping me training and im getting down at it.
Any advice please


Mick:

Been there Mick. All the docs say "you need to rest it". Find some exercises that don't cause pain and do those is all I can recommend.....

[bodyshop20]

Cheers ironman that is what im doing actually so we all think alike lol.
Be good and if not dont get caught:

[rufiedog]

Originally Posted by bodyshop20

Been training real heavy, well much heavier than normal.
Trying 5x5 system.
I now have real bed on fire pain in my elbows when i curl or any movement that involves pulling using bicep.
It stopping me training and im getting down at it.
Any advice please


Mick:

Stuart Mcrobert's Q and A section. Great advice IMO!
ELBOW PROBLEMS
Q: I regularly have a tennis-elbow-like problem in my right elbow that really inhibits my upper-body work. What should I do?
A: Don't train through it! This problem can become chronic if not dealt with.
I've had the same problem, several times. I treated it by laying off the exercises that irritated it, doing trigger point therapy on the musculature surrounding the elbow, and adding finger EXTENSION work to my program.
If you get your left thumb and dig it in to the muscles immediately above and below your right elbow, you'll find some exquisitely painful points. These are the trigger points. Remember where they are. Here's how to treat them: Dig in hard with your thumb on one of the trigger points. Hold it for about ten seconds. Then move to the next trigger point, and work that one hard for about ten seconds. Continue in the same manner until you've worked all the trigger points in the muscles around your elbow. Then do the circuit another two times. Do that two times each day. It may take a few weeks before you feel substantial improvement.
Add finger EXTENSION work. The finger extension is an important exercise although it doesn't build noticeable muscle. But it strengthens the muscles that extend the fingers, whereas exercises that involve the grip work the muscles that FLEX the fingers. A strength imbalance between these opposing muscles contribute to elbow problems.
If this combination of treatment doesn't improve things after a few weeks, visit a professional therapist with experience of treating tennis elbow, for additional help.

Dan

[Todd]

I've had this exact same problem before..... my chiropractor told me to rub the tendon or the area where the pain is running along with your fingers. Push on it moderately and rub it like your giving it a deep tissue massage. Do this 3 times per day and then just let it rest fully and not do any exercises that directly affect it. So in other words, work around it fully.

This took care of the problem for me in about 1 week's time. I've never had it come back again. So I would definitely give this a try.

[CF-OC_gal]

I've had physio for it twice (10 years apart). The other posts here are good advice. Definately don't ignore it. I had to because of work and ended up taking time away and going to physio for it. Learning how to live with it is important because you will always be suseptable to it once you've had it.

Ice it a lot after using your arm. Laser therapy is good if you need to go that far.

[bodyshop20]

: To all who have sent advice.
I will take heed of what yr all saying and hope to get is sorted.
Thank you all once again

Mick uk

[Merrida]

Laser therapy? In what regard?

I have a "trick" left elbow as well, and it catches on me every now and again with things like overhead tricep extensions, once in a while doing DB shoulder presses, only a few times benching....but definitely exercises that involve stabilizers will twinge more.

I also agree, IMO, it may never truly go away. You may go decades without symptoms then one day out of the blue, a strain will retrigger that injury. I have been living with, and lifting with, this elbow "thing" (undisclosed Dx) for years. No, do not work through it,...like everyone else here, let me pipe in and say, "work around it," and learn to anticipate movements and loads that may trigger it.

One potential cause is trying to do 5X5's too quickly before you were conditioned enough or before your connective tissues were prepared enough to handle this intensity. It's easy for lots of us to base our routines on what we feel is our primary muscle strength and power, with little attention or awareness to ligaments and tendons and their importance, along with realizing those little stabilizer muscles really do need attention too.

[standAPART]

You can be suffereing from somthing called "ulnar entraptment". I suggest along with some of the good posts here is stretching the forearm and look into possible treatments for tendonosis (not tendonitis).

[CF-OC_gal]

Originally Posted by Merrida

Laser therapy? In what regard?

I get both tennis and golfer's elbow at the same time in my right arm. When the sports med doc threatened me with cortisone shots I became religious about the finger/wrist stretching routine morning and night and icing all the time.

When I went for physio treatment the PT would masage it, do the pressure point digging thing described above, ice it then use the ultra sound machine (which was not effective on me) or give me laser zaps whith a funny hand held wand which felt really good and a warm sensation deep inside. The idea is to reduce scar tissue build up.

I cannot do cable work for anything more than a warm up now because it directly stresses the weak point. A neutral grip keeps me out of trouble too! Part of my problem is very flexible joints. It's common in women. Mine was caused by overuse at work, not by poor techniques in the gym.

[Jaster]

Yes I have this too. I even have a nice little knot just below the elbow joint (My Doctor says it's just scar tissue and not to worry about it) When I'm in pain The bad kind not the good kind) I always rest it. What I do to help prevent it from growing in to a pain that needs rest. I use elbow sleeves. You know the ruber neopren type.
I use them in all BIG pressing movements. Bench, Over head etc.
I don't use them for small lifts like Curls or pulling moves, only the big presses.
This seems to keep it in check.

[Merrida]

Briefly not related,...but when I got your reply to this sent to my email, it came through as "bodybuilding and fitness forum" instead of "discuss fitness." Only this one, only as of today. I'm just curious if this is a new thing?

Back on topic, the gadgets physical therapists use never cease to astonish me......

[CF-OC_gal]

I wear a pressure wrap everytime I workout in the gym and to work on most days I am doing detailed work like cutting, sewing and pulling on heavy fabrics.

It is a blessing, but I get a lot of odd looks.