Thoughts on wrist straps

[Grey Ghost]

For me, I don't need the strap upto 275. It's when I go above 315 that I start using straps to get one or more rep in. I haven't tried chalk yet and I am planning to hit the local Big 5 to get some chalk. I will post the results next week asap. Thanks for all your opinions and thoughts.

[Cort]

I was in a similar situation. I usually didn't go over 290 without straps, but now I can go up to 375 with the chalk. It makes THAT much of a difference.

[Suareezay]

Originally Posted by Firehawk

Frustrating isnt it? LMAO

What the hell is a "casual lifter"? See this is the problem with why people don't make any gains. If you aren't hardcore, you're going nowhere. Either do it all the way or don't do it because your'e going to be wasting your time.

You know, one thing should be in mind when you're lifting weights, and that's to build muscle or get stronger. It's no wonder 90% of people at gyms never change. I guess that's what a casual lifter is.

not everyone eats 8 times a day, benches 615 for reps, and squats 720 ass to the grass...some people just go lift a few weights after work to relieve stress or to keep a general level of fitness. Thats what a casual lifter is. Are you saying that these people shouldnt even bother going to the gym?

Whatever, from the plethora of readong ive done on the subject I saw use straps when your trying to kill your legs and back. deadlifts arent a forearms excersize, why have to stop a back workout short because your grip gives out? But whatever, do what you want.

[Suareezay]

Originally Posted by luke.w

I knew I should not of even said anything!!!!!

I'M DONE.

OMG. Somebody has a different opinion than you. Go cry about and be done.:

[Firehawk]

People that are casual lifters never go anywhere, and that's a fact. They do however fill up the gyms and hog equipment that the real lifters need .

Most people will never reach the numbers you mentioned, but it's that kind of attitude that makes people go nowhere and give up.

[Suareezay]

Originally Posted by Firehawk

People that are casual lifters never go anywhere, and that's a fact. They do however fill up the gyms and hog equipment that the real lifters need .

Most people will never reach the numbers you mentioned, but it's that kind of attitude that makes people go nowhere and give up.

Casual lifters may not ever bench 650 or whatever it may be that you bench, but they can still improve their health, their strength, and their appearance. Whats wrong with that? Not everyone WANTS to bench 650 in the first place.

Are you saying everyone that isnt a powerlifter is basically wasting valuable water, air, and red meat from Harris Teeter and should just kill themselves?

[gcs118]

What he's saying is that even if you are a "casual lifter" looking to better some aspect of yourself...it isn't going to happen without goals. Giving it a half-ass effort won't make you stronger, look better, or more fit. You need dedication and consistency.

[Suareezay]

Originally Posted by gcs118

What he's saying is that even if you are a "casual lifter" looking to better some aspect of yourself...it isn't going to happen without goals. Giving it a half-ass effort won't make you stronger, look better, or more fit. You need dedication and consistency.

who said casual lifters didnt have goals?

[Lift2Live]

If a person wants to go to the gym for an hour every once in a while because it makes him feel better and relieve stress, by all means he should feel allowed to do so without a set "goal" in mind. The gym is a great way to strengthen a persons mental outlook without needing the physical result.

[Firehawk]

Originally Posted by Suareezay

Casual lifters may not ever bench 650 or whatever it may be that you bench, but they can still improve their health, their strength, and their appearance. Whats wrong with that? Not everyone WANTS to bench 650 in the first place.

Are you saying everyone that isnt a powerlifter is basically wasting valuable water, air, and red meat from Harris Teeter and should just kill themselves?

No, I'm saying that you're attitude is ridiculous and I'm thankful I don't train in an environment with the kind of attitude you are portraying to be ok because then I'd probably go nowhere either.

And by the way, casual lifters dont' improve on anything, they go nowhere just like i said. You named goals of improving strength and appearance. I'd say those are pretty good goals. Too bad going to the gym just to go to the gym isn't going to get them to their goals. It dont matter if your goal is to bench 200 or 800, you still have to be hardcore and work at it or you go nowhere my friend.

"some people just go lift a few weights after work to relieve stress or to keep a general level of fitness." Huh? If you aint' doing it with your heart into it then why do it? You're desrcibing the average joe that stays the exact same fitness level that they are because of attitudes like the one your portraying. Frankly I'd wish you would stop it because it sends the wrong signal to people around here looking for motivation. Sounds like you're telling them it's ok to just go sling around a few weights in a nonchalant (sp) manner. People that lift for the reason of 'relieving stress' or to keep a 'general level of fitnes' (whatever that means) are NOT lifting with a goal in mind lol. They're just lifting with no purpose.

"Whatever, from the plethora of readong ive done on the subject I saw use straps when your trying to kill your legs and back. deadlifts arent a forearms excersize, why have to stop a back workout short because your grip gives out? But whatever, do what you want."

You must have been reading with blinders on because the last time I did heavy deadlifts my forearms were awful sore . Deadlifts are a full body exercise buddy. Have you ever tried one? Oh wait, you're a casual lifter. Go do some leg presses and hyperextensions to relieve some stress...

[Firehawk]

Originally Posted by Lift2Live

If a person wants to go to the gym for an hour every once in a while because it makes him feel better and relieve stress, by all means he should feel allowed to do so without a set "goal" in mind. The gym is a great way to strengthen a persons mental outlook without needing the physical result.

Bro, that's a recipe for disaster. People that you speak of go to the gym, maybe for a few weeks, and then find out that they are going nowhere after looking at what they wish they were. My point is that they don't improve anything by going to the gym with no goal in mind.

Sorry, but people that go once in a while usually feel worse about themselves after they see others that are fit.

Why lift without a goal? Why go to the gym without any goal? That makes no sense to me.

[Suareezay]

Originally Posted by Firehawk

No, I'm saying that you're attitude is ridiculous and I'm thankful I don't train in an environment with the kind of attitude you are portraying to be ok because then I'd probably go nowhere either.

"some people just go lift a few weights after work to relieve stress or to keep a general level of fitness." Huh? If you aint' doing it with your heart into it then why do it? You're desrcibing the average joe that stays the exact same fitness level that they are because of attitudes like the one your portraying. Frankly I'd wish you would stop it because it sends the wrong signal to people around here looking for motivation. Sounds like you're telling them it's ok to just go sling around a few weights in a nonchalant (sp) manner.

"Whatever, from the plethora of readong ive done on the subject I saw use straps when your trying to kill your legs and back. deadlifts arent a forearms excersize, why have to stop a back workout short because your grip gives out? But whatever, do what you want."

You must have been reading with blinders on because the last time I did heavy deadlifts my forearms were awful sore . Deadlifts are a full body exercise buddy. Have you ever tried one? Oh wait, you're a casual lifter. Go do some leg presses and hyperextensions to relieve some stress...

Why is it not ok to go sling around a few weights in a nonchalant manner? Where in the bible does it say thou shalt progress in weights every workout and eat over 300g of protein everyday (i only say this because everyone who takes the bible literally is as closeminded as you, and treats it as a rulebook for everyday life)

And if your looking at an internet forum for motiviation than you have more issues to be concerned with than whether or not to use wriststraps.

Yea, any retard would be able to tell that lifting 300 pounds off the ground a bunch of time is going to make your forearms sore....so good for you. What I meant was you dont go into the gym and say "hm...my forearms are looking a little shabby today, i think ill do some deadlifts". Yes, of course deadlifts are a full body excersize but are primarily for legs and back.

Im not a "casual lifter" but I am also not so closeminded and ignorant that I look down upon people that dont feel the need to eat 7 times a day, train with weights 3 days a week, and progress in weight every workout the way i do. But yea leg presses are the hotness :

[gcs118]

Originally Posted by Suareezay

who said casual lifters didnt have goals?

You did. The way you described "casual lifters" were people going to relieve stress or whatever. I don't see any goal there. Lifting monotonously week after week the same weights without a goal gets you nowhere. It won't make you stronger, look better, etc. You need to push yourself towards your goal. Just showing up at the gym whenever you feel like it and playing on the machines or tossing around weights isn't productive. It takes work to achieve goals...if you have no goal you would be wasting your time because you don't care to progress.

[Firehawk]

Nowhere did I say it wasn't ok, I simply said they don't improve on anything and it's meaningless. You wanna be like that knock yourself out.

To better yourself no matter what you want to do, whether it be build muscle, build strength, or get defined, you have to have goals. THATS THE POINT.

EDIT: And there's quite a few people on here that get motivated by others around here. I get motivated by like minded people with similar GOALS when i read a new PR that they reached. I guess i got major problems then .

[Suareezay]

Originally Posted by gcs118

You did. The way you described "casual lifters" were people going to relieve stress or whatever. I don't see any goal there. Lifting monotonously week after week the same weights without a goal gets you nowhere. It won't make you stronger, look better, etc. You need to push yourself towards your goal. Just showing up at the gym whenever you feel like it and playing on the machines or tossing around weights isn't productive. It takes work to achieve goals...if you have no goal you would be wasting your time because you don't care to progress.

well theres people with gym memberhsips that are metephorically "collecting dust" who dont have goals. Then there are casual lifters who workout on a regular basis, and slowly progress, but dont try to make a career out of it. Theres a difference.