unwanted gains - Page 4

getaway · 02-Jul-07, 09:42 PM

alright id liek some advice on what to do.. i'd like to keep gaining muscle mass by very clean bulking, meaning side foods are all non fat yogurt, apples, etc. main foods consisting of bread, potatos, lean chicken, lean ground beef, eggs. i want to get bigger in muscle mass, i have 3 resistance training days as well as two intense cardio days a week. shud i eat like crazy (clean) or shud i focus on dropping my weight? will this belly eventually dissapear while muscle grows?

getaway · 03-Jul-07, 02:49 AM

any takers..?

**Lady C** · 03-Jul-07, 06:18 AM

Give us an example - be specific of timing, how much, and when the workout is.

This would be more helpful than just saying eat right.

getaway · 03-Jul-07, 01:53 PM

Diet consists of 5 moderate meals, homemade, my diet changes everyday due to what my parents cook, but its always made with rice, potatos and some type of lean meat. I space my meals out and eat every 3 hours starting at 8am. with side meals being fruit or non fat yogurt, or a cup of 1% milk. My cardio is 45 minutes long and is intense, I burn about 500 cal per session (It's martial arts). And I resistance train. Each workout is an hour long.

Monday - Cardio
Tuesday - Chest/Back
Wednesday - Rest
Thursday - Shoulders/Legs
Friday - Cardio
Saturday - Arms
Sunday - Rest

The workouts vary for each muscle group but I stick to 5 sets, and two exercises per muscle group. Reps ranging from 4-8. I try to stick to compound exercises. So back to my main question, should I focus on building muscle in a clean matter, would the fat eventually dissapear?

**Lady C** · 03-Jul-07, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by getaway

Diet consists of 5 moderate meals, homemade, my diet changes everyday due to what my parents cook, but its always made with rice, potatos and some type of lean meat. I space my meals out and eat every 3 hours starting at 8am. with side meals being fruit or non fat yogurt, or a cup of 1% milk. My cardio is 45 minutes long and is intense, I burn about 500 cal per session (It's martial arts). And I resistance train. Each workout is an hour long.

When do you eat what and where is the workout in those meals?

EXAMPLE:
7:00am Oatmeal with 1 cup milk
10:00am XXXX
1:00pm XXXX
2:00pm Workout
3:00pm Post workout shake
5:00pm Steak, potatoes & carrots
8:00pm XXXX

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Originally Posted by getaway

should I focus on building muscle in a clean matter, would the fat eventually dissapear?

Yes, if the diet is in check. Thus my questions.

getaway · 03-Jul-07, 03:47 PM

its summer for me, so i dont really have a SET or fixed time, i just space meals out every 3 hours and my workout varies from either 9am or at 2pm in the afternoon. i dont have my own gym so i bus to the gym on various days, sometimes i can get a ride from my parents to the gym others, i bus down after my lunch. so it varies.

getaway · 03-Jul-07, 03:50 PM

and as i said before, the food varies of what i eat due to what my parents cook, the only for sure meal is breakfast where i either have 4 eggs, two pieces of toast or two servings of oatmeal and a bowl of cereal along with a cup or two of milk. my breakfast is usually 600 calories. im not eating the same food everyday, im just cutting junkfood and eating lean. and usually before bed i drink a cup of milk with a banana. post workout is 2 cups of milk. and a banana.

**Lady C** · 03-Jul-07, 05:52 PM

Without tracking in detail your calories and macronutrients (protein, carbs & fat) you may never know what changes are necessary for the diet. How do you know now that you are eating enough protein, not too many carbs and enough of the right fats?

getaway · 03-Jul-07, 06:08 PM

i just assume because every meal includes two or more servings of meat, where the pyramid of canada's nutrional guidelines recommend 2-3 while im eating a possible 6. and its difficult tracking the calories in my parents cooking, as i said, i thought iwasnt getting enough calories and i ended up getting fat. so i just go by the basics, each of my meals contain 500 cal's so im getting well above 2000 and below 3000. you told me to cut back, and i have by taking away an entire meal. as well as the good fats and such im not too worried about those, i take multivitamins and get omega 3's from eggs. my carbs are above 200 and my fat is below 100g. as ive been led to believe im an ecto, i feel the changes will come fast, seeing how ive eaten fast food alot in my pre teens and stayed skinny througout, never had an appetite for food. and even with lifting weights my results came very slow. so hope to shed off the fat pounds soon with my new diet and workout routine. all i wanted to know is if gaining mass was the way to go while losing fat pounds along the way or to just focus on shedding the fat. I've been told in fat loss diets you should keep your protein level very high to preserve muscle. just looking for advice on how to approach a fat loss/muscle gain diet, im willing to make any changes for a plan like that.

**LiftGirl** · 05-Jul-07, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by getaway

just looking for advice on how to approach a fat loss/muscle gain diet, im willing to make any changes for a plan like that.

You say you are willing to make any change to lose fat and gain muscle. As LadyC has already told you, the big change you need to make is to begin to track your diet. For your parent's cooking, you can measure out the meat or rice or whatever. Then use a website like fitday or the daily plate.

getaway · 05-Jul-07, 01:06 PM

i have done what she has said, eat clean, find a mainteance calorie intake, eat slightly above it, up the workouts. but ive yet to be answered if what she is telling me is for fat loss + muscle gain or for just pure fat loss. i have taken every bit of advice you've all given me and have added it into my lifestyle, but i just want to make sure what this advice is going to do for me. when i checked my mainteance level apparently it was 2800 which i find to be a bit ridiculous seeing how the past two weeks i have eaten probably 2200 or less and havent dropped a single pound. so is it wise for me to consume 3000 a day?

getaway · 05-Jul-07, 01:18 PM

this is my diet as i have calculated it

Cereal + Milk +milk+ Yogurt =500cal
Grilled cheese sandwich= 300cal
4 drum sticks and potatos= 750
Meat + Rice = 500
Milk + Banana + Yogurt =300

**LiftGirl** · 06-Jul-07, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by getaway

this is my diet as i have calculated it

Cereal + Milk +milk+ Yogurt =500cal
Grilled cheese sandwich= 300cal
4 drum sticks and potatos= 750
Meat + Rice = 500
Milk + Banana + Yogurt =300

You need more fruit and veggies. There's only one fruit there and not a single veggie.

getaway · 06-Jul-07, 02:36 PM

i thought potatos were vegetables? and i do eat alot of fruits on the side, i just didnt mention them, i eat apples, blueberries and cherries.

getaway · 06-Jul-07, 02:50 PM

i dont want to be at a standstill with my diet, my cardio starts next week, so ill up my cals by _________. so is this diet doing me any good?