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Old 26-Dec-05, 08:06 AM   #1
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Where do you start?


Hello im Jay new here!

Just wondered if some of you can help me, i have a set of weights an excursive bike, a treadmill and one of them ab swing things.

What it is i want to tone up, where do you start?

i have been doing crunches, can do about 50-60 of them before i die for a few minutes. and lifting weights i can lift 25lb above my head about 15 times and (single arm) then i stop.

the results aren't that good for what i do, maybe im doing it wrong or no good. any help?
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Old 26-Dec-05, 10:02 AM   #2
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I would start by reading all of the top threads (stickies) in the "Diet and Nutrition", "Beginners Questions" and "General Bodybuilding" forums. We can't design a routine and a diet for you. But if educate yourself and ask questions you can design your own. Remember, this place is called "Discuss Fitness".
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Old 26-Dec-05, 10:18 AM   #3
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"tone up". That's one of those nondescript terms that means something slightly different to everyone. I'm going to assume that you mean look firmer - that means build some lean muscle and burn some body fat. Here are some easy pointers - there are multiple ways to do it, but here are the ones I've found to be easiest. Since you want to "tone up", you will have to do mass building exercises. Don't worry about accidentally becoming a muscle bound freak by accident, it's not likely. I've been trying to become one on purpose and it still hasn't happened.

Step one: Control you diet.
Diet is key to any fitness endeavor. Whether that is building muscle, burning fat, powerlifting, marathon running - you have to have the right fuel for what you are planning to do.

Start with a balanced diet with protein sources, complex carbohydrates, and natural healthy fats. The amounts will vary based on your needs. To begin, gradually increase your protein intake and reduce your carbohydrate intake until you see body fat begin to dissappear - make sure you include plenty of green vegetables. Even a thin layer of body fat can make us look "soft" and "un-toned". Eat enough calories for your needs - again how much depends on your body, you'll have to experiment. Eat frequently - at least 4-6 times a day. Many of us eat 10-12 times a day. Do not go hungry. If you are hungry it tells your body to eat your muscle and store fat.

Step 2 weight training.
There are many ways to do this - from full body workouts to varying beginner to advanced splits. In my opinion, the simplest way is to work out each day. Do one body part each day. Work with the heaviest weights you can handle for your chosen sets/reps range - don't mess around with lightweight stuff. Heavy is of course relative. Heavy for my child is light for me. Heavy for me may be light for you. Choose what is heavy for you.
here is one example
Legs - squats, stiff legged deadlifts, calf raises
Arms - BB curls, Skull Crushers, DB curls, Tricep pushdowns
Shoulders - shrugs, military press, upright row
Back - conventional deadlift, bent over row, lat pulldowns
chest/abs - flat bench press, incline bench press, decline bench press, crunches, cable crunches.
Take a day or two off each week.
I prefer to do 3 sets of each exercise, 4-6 reps each set. Start with a weight you can move cleanly 4 times. Increase each week until you can do it 6 times. Increase the weight when you can do 3x6 without assistance.
You can also work in the 6-8 rep range, 8-10, 10-12...whatever.

Step 3 - Cardiovascular training - to complete the package, you've got to train the heart. This also leads to fat burning. Do something simple like go out and walk for an hour. Or you can run a half hour, ride a bike. One thing that is very popular and seems to be quite effective is to do a recumbant bike for 16 minutes as hard as you can go. This raises the metabolism and causes you to burn fat all day.

Well there you have it, the plan to tone up with. Now just adapt it to your specific body and situation and you'll do fine.
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Old 26-Dec-05, 10:57 AM   #4
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thanks for all your help, the reason i want to get lean is i have no body fat! and no matter how much i eat i just dont get bigger. so when i come to wear clothes they all hang off me, it doesnt help having a 28'' waist but needing 34 leg. but i will take all your advice and hopefully not look like a bean pole. Thanks Jay
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Well that makes a difference then. If you have a low body fat the ideas are the same - just don't worry about cutting carbs until you see fat starting to disappear. Simply eat a balanced diet - still eat often - and add more protein and carbohydrate until you see yourself starting to grow. Once agian, no one can tell you exactly what you need - it's your body and you'll have to experiment to find out what will work best for you. You definitely need to do the weight training to build more muscle. Cardio isn't going to be your main area of concentration. It is still important to be done, because of it's value for your heart - but you must be sure to eat enough to make up for the calories burned when you do it.


I know, eat more, eat more, eat more...I hear it all the time. I do understand how hard it can be. Right now I'm on 2600-3000 calories a day and it's difficult to get that much in without eating unhealthy things. But it can be done with planning and paying close attention to dietary detail.
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Old 26-Dec-05, 12:04 PM   #6
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Hey Jay,

Glad you could join us. Give us a few basic stats about you (age, body type, height weight, lifestyle ...) and we will be better able to put our comments and recommendations in perspective.

A few overall goals you are shooting for would help too.
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