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26-Jan-07, 12:17 PM
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26-Jan-07, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Stang281
Alot of people who take steroids also do other drugs, so what? I posted that wrestlers death post because I found it interesting and only said heres ANOTHER reason not to do roids. If I knew everyone was gonna take it up their ass I wouldnt have said anything 
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I guess the reason why people are jumpin on this topic is because there's a huge stereotype out there put on bodybuilders, and other athletes who take or have taken steroids in the past, and then die...THEN, people automatically assume steroids was the cause of their death...when in reality there is little to NO evidence ever documented supporting this assumption.
There are millions and millions of steroid users in the world...yet there are no cases where early deaths have been linked directly to steroids in any way. Funny, ain't it???
So, when people say "oh that guy died from steroids cuz he used them during his life", people are assuming something that is completely false. This is why people who know the truth about steroid usage get their panties in a bunch when such "myths" are proclaimed as true.
The same can be said about the Ephedrine controversy. People were getting all outraged because young healthy athletes were dying here and there ..who were taking ephedrine...but at a closer inspection you'd find that those athletes were mega-dosing on it to cause these disorders. OR, in most cases, these people had pre-existing conditions that ultimately ran their course and took their life...yet, ephedrine got the blame, a bad wrap because of this and ultimately got pulled off the shelves by the FDA.
Now, who's to blame here? The ephedrine? Or the people not following the directions on the back of the bottle and taking more than they should be, simply because they thought more was better? I would say it's the user's fault. And this was the case with most cases.
I guess this could be said about many things...you take too much of anything...even cough syrup or aspirin, you're going to have trouble on your hands. Yet, if you stay within safe dosages, you'll be ok most likely...and this has even been proven with steroids. Now, do I advocate taking steroids, no, but I also don't advocate a lot of things because that is my own personal view on those issues.
I can see what's going to come next...next it will be the FDA banning creatine because some turd lickers who took creatine during their life to IMPROVE their fitness level happened to die an early death for whatever other reason (heart attack, kidney failure, liver failure, cancer, or some other disease), but since they were also taking creatine, it will get the blame for their death. Sad isn't it?
Last edited by Todd; 26-Jan-07 at 12:37 PM.
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26-Jan-07, 12:22 PM
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The video was funny.
Why Mr. "Natural 4 Life" takes steroid use so lightly and defends it, I do not know.
That was an interesting post, Stang, thanks for sharing.
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26-Jan-07, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd
I guess the reason why people are jumpin on this topic is because there's a huge stereotype out there put on bodybuilders, and other athletes who take or have taken steroids in the past, and then die...THEN, people automatically assume steroids was the cause of their death...when in reality there is little to NO evidence ever documented supporting this assumption.
There are millions and millions of steroid users in the world...yet there are no cases where early deaths have been linked directly to steroids in any way. Funny, ain't it???
So, when people say "oh that guy died from steroids cuz he used them during his life", people are assuming something that is completely false. This is why people who know the truth about steroid usage get their panties in a bunch when such "myths" are proclaimed as true.
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You have more posts in this thread then anyone else, so who's the one "jumping on this topic?"
Your argument about there being little direct evidence in steroid deaths holds no weight. A person does not overdose on hormones, it's the accumlitive effect that takes it's toll on the body. If someone dies from an enlarged heart or a clogged artery resulting from years of steroid abuse, it's still the steroid use that caused the death. Directly or indirectly is a moot point.
Why so defensive Todd?
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26-Jan-07, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Firehawk
That video Todd posted, had me ROLLIN at work. Oh my God that was funny. Thanks I needed that.
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It seems you're the only one so far who has found it funny...or has at least stated so. Glad you like it, it made me laugh my ass off too! One of the funnier one's I've seen. 
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26-Jan-07, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan C
Why Mr. "Natural 4 Life" takes steroid use so lightly and defends it, I do not know.
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Perhaps it's because I am not close-minded when it comes to seeing both views from each side (steroid users and non-steroid users). I've done enough research to understand the risks vs gain, and I've come out with an unbiased opinion about it. My choice to not use, is just that...my choice. I am not defending the use of steroids in anyway in my posts...I am explaining some facts that is about it.
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26-Jan-07, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan C
You have more posts in this thread then anyone else, so who's the one "jumping on this topic?"
Your argument about there being little direct evidence in steroid deaths holds no weight.
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O'rly? My stance on the issue is that there are little to no deaths documented that are directly related to steroids...notice, I said "little to no"...this is with millions of people using steroids or having used steroids in their lifetime. The majority of people that die (who have used or are using steroids) have done so because of other previous existing conditions.
LOL, not defensive one bit... I am explaining something, so what's the problem?
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26-Jan-07, 12:53 PM
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Thanks Todd for clearing that up for me....I do feel alil bad now cause of my ignorance  :
Oh and sorry for hijacking your thread, didnt mean for it to get offbase
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26-Jan-07, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Firehawk
How old is Hulk Hogan now?
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Hell be 54 in August
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26-Jan-07, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Stang281
Thanks Todd for clearing that up for me....I do feel alil bad now cause of my ignorance  :
Oh and sorry for hijacking your thread, didnt mean for it to get offbase
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No worries man, it all good...nothing like a good debate...we all learn something. 
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26-Jan-07, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Stang281
Hell be 54 in August
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Does anyone know if he still uses?
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26-Jan-07, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd
Does anyone know if he still uses?
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I couldnt tell you for sure......But from watching hogan knows best I dont think his wife would allow it, his wife and daughter are really hard up on his health now.
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26-Jan-07, 01:57 PM
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Cool man, thanks for the insight!
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26-Jan-07, 02:48 PM
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He might have "backed off" but i doubt he stopped completely.
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26-Jan-07, 03:54 PM
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Hey guys. As much as I love the topic and the debates. Remember, steroid threads are kind of a no no here. They invariably turn into debate then attack threads. The video clip was hilarious, I really enjoyed watching it.
But please lets avoid the debates and attacks that happen when this discussion comes up. We all know the benefits vs risks of steroid use and the higher ups (site admins) decided about a year ago not to have that discussion here.
Let's instead discuss the funny video...or talk about the Hulkster, his butt ugly wife, or totally hot daughter instead.
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