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Old 17-Jan-11, 11:52 AM   #1
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Workout advice needed....


Hi guys. Im gonna start a new workout and wanted some opinions on it. My goal is just to get into better shape and gain some strength along the way. Please take a look at my workout and let me know what you think. The onke thing i realy want to make sure of is if the number of sets are ok or if i would be overdoing it. I plan on trying for between 4 and 6 reps per set. Thanks.

Monday
Chest/Shoulders
Flat Bench 6 sets
Incline Bench 6 Sets
Flys 3 sets
Military Press 4 Sets
Upright Rows 4 sets

Tuesday
Dead Lifts 6 sets
Pull downs 4 sets
Close Grip Pulldowns 4 sets
Seated Rows 4 sets

Thursday
Leg Press (i dont do squats because of plates in my neck) 6 sets
Leg Extensions 4 Sets
Leg Curls 4 Sets
Calf Presses 6 Sets

Friday
Barbell Curls 4 Sets
Hammer Curls 3 Sets
Conc. Curls 3 Sets
Close Grip Bench 4 Sets
Skull Crushers 3 Sets
Press Downs 3 Sets.
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Old 17-Jan-11, 05:25 PM   #2
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4-6 reps per set. 7-10 sets per bodypart per week. Looks like Max OT to me.

It should work pretty good if you give it your all.

I prefer full body workouts with a minimal approach(three days a week consisting of squat, dead, bench, row, and an overhead pressing movement) but that's just me. I add more...then end up dropping it, going back to what has historically worked for me.

If you can do it, go for it.

Run into problems, just ask and we'll be glad to help where we can.

Good luck in your training.
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Old 17-Jan-11, 05:36 PM   #3
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Hi V. What does Max OT mean?
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Old 17-Jan-11, 10:05 PM   #4
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Oh, I thought I remembered you from the old days here at DF when EVERYONE was doing that. It's actually a pretty good way to train called Maximum Overload Training. Hence the name Max-OT. I thought that's what you were trying to do because that's what it looks like.

>One or two body parts per day.
>Five days per week.
>Train heavy within the 4 to 6 rep range (if you can't do 4 it's too heavy and if you can do more than 6 it's too light).
>Betwen 5 to 7 sets per bodypart per week (some go as hard as up to 10 sets per week, utilizing different lifts to hit each part very thoroughly)

It looks a great deal like your plan.

Myself, it's too tough on my ancient joints so I stick with variations of Starr's or Pendalay's routines... basically just 5x5 because they use full body workouts three times a week and use only compound lifts without isolation work. They work great for beginners, advanced trainees, and for anyone who is anywhere in between.
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Old 18-Jan-11, 07:32 AM   #5
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Gaining strength with that much volume is going to be tough.My suggestion is to cut the exercises to 2 per muscle group and do only 2 work sets on each exercise.It may look like too little work but it's not.Try to increase the weight you lift every other week.Do compound movements (bench press, incline bench press, military press, squats,deadlifts,rows,and pull ups).

About your goal to get in better shape: If you don't want do over do things just add light cardio(walking for 25-30 minutes) in the mornings when you're not lifting weights and clean your diet (cut sugars, sodium, bump your protein and fiber intake) and the results will come in a couple of months.
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Old 29-Jan-11, 08:29 AM   #6
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Arith,

Many people think that strength and hypertrophy are synonymous. Although there is a relationship, it is not as direct as most think.

On gaining strength: less reps per set. When I train for strength I use 4 or less reps. No more than 4 sets total per type of movement. For example, 2 sets of parallel bar dips and 2 sets of shoulder presses.

On gaining mass/hypertrophy: I believe the current recomendation by NSCA is 8-12 reps per set. There is a fair amount of debate on the number of sets per exercise. Honestly I hate going above 2 sets per exercise even with hypertrophy. On some occasions I will do 3 or 4. This is rare.

If you are new to weightlifting: Most folks will recommend what Zoco recommends. I agree. I have a tough time even getting 8 sets done (2 movement types, 2 exercises each, and 2 sets each exercise). If you are working hard, 8 sets is more than enough. It is beyond me how anybody can lift Deadlifts for 6 sets for strength. Some can, but I feel like I am going to throw up after 6 sets of DLs alone. If your diet is right, you will gain. There is no reason to worry or fret a lot about your lifting routine until you are experienced. If you are experienced, your diet is still important but I still don't see why a person would do a ton of sets. But hey, that might just be me.

On MAX-OT: I used MAX-OT for quite some time. I found that the 4-6 rep range got stale. I like to mix my rep ranges up for various reasons. The reasons are scientifically supported and it keeps me excited about lifting.

I gained a fair amount on MAX-OT, but I was a teenager at the time. In retrospect, I think new lifters and experienced lifters should focus on compound exercises with some supplemental exercises.
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Old 03-Apr-11, 09:34 PM   #7
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Don't work your arm alone on friday. Chest try's back bi's.
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Sample Routine:
Mon
4sets flat bench
4 sets Incline bench
3 sets flys
3 set pushdowns
3 sets close grip benching
3 sets some other tricept exercise


Tues
5 sets leg press
4 sets leg extensions
4 sets leg curl

Wed off

thurs
4 sets pull ups behind neck
3 sets bent over rows
3 set dead lifts
3 sets 1 arm dumbell rows
3 sets barbell curl
3 sets concentration curl
3 sets standing dumbell curl

Fri
3 sets military press
3 sets upright rows
3 sets shrugs
3 sets dumbell press
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