How long has it taken you to lose BF

[.V.]

One thing we are all forgetting. And I may be way off base here since I don't know her or her situation. Sometimes there are those few with a true metabolic resistance to weight loss.

To get things kickstarted, the very low calorie diet for one to four weeks may be needed and be absolutely necessary.

And don't forget the motivational factor of some quick results before settling down to a more reasonable method and results.

[Lady C]

Let me add to the mix. I think she should carb cycle and do cardio in the AM like welch says. Since JayKay is NOT obese I would not recommend extreme low calories.

I personally have not have enough energy to plan out a carb cycle diet but I do know it works well for women in the last few pounds. I would try that before reducing calories. PM me for more info if you need it.

[bodyshop20]

Well im a believer in low cal to kick start like welch says.
But it dont work for everyone, i done it for my girl as i know how she thinks.
She is now 4wks in and 20lb lighter.
Low intake kicked her arse into gear and now she has seen results, has taken on a new food plan.
She has clothes to big now and the smile is priceless when she sees this.
So i think its also about the state of mind too.
All advice above is spot on as usual, these regular folk know their stuff

[mangotango]

I agree with the advice above, and it is normally what I would follow. However, I recently read an article on hormonal weight gain in More Magazine about the ways hormones effect some women's ability to lose weight as well as control our urges to eat and stop eating. There is great advice in this post, but I just thought I'd bring up this possibility in case nothing else is working for you (I've been there!).

[LiftGirl]

Originally Posted by a_welch503

One thing we are all forgetting. And I may be way off base here since I don't know her or her situation. Sometimes there are those few with a true metabolic resistance to weight loss.

To get things kickstarted, the very low calorie diet for one to four weeks may be needed and be absolutely necessary.

I agree, but if it's a case of true metabolic resistance that requires a dramatic low calorie diet (below 1200) then they need to be medically supervised. It's dangerous and incredibly difficult to get the proper nutrients, IMO.

[.V.]

Liftgirl, you are pretty much correct on the medical supervision. On the NIDDM people I've been asked by their docs to help who DID have a true metabolic resistance the doc told them to check blood sugar frequently each day, if it was below 60 at anytime they were to immediately start eating carbs again.

No glucose control oral medications during this time for safety.
Then the actual food - 900 calories/day of almost all fat. Cheap sausage, egg yolks without whites, the cheapest hamburger they could find. Walnuts and macadamian nuts for snacks. 6 tiny feedings each day.

Yeah, that's about it. Usually within 2 weeks they were either dead or off meds for real and able to eat a more normal (or normal to me) cutting diet with an actually appropriate number of calories (yeah, 10/lb seems to be just the ticket for most people).

Oh yeah, and I'm only kidding. Nobody died. Most had good results. Some cheated and it didn't work out very well.

And no, I'm not a real nutrition consultant. I'm just a guy that managed to lose a ****load of weight and turn my own health around. And sometimes with the patient's permission, the doc would say, "can you work with this guy, he can't seem to listen to me." Oh yeah and the doc would communicate with them EOD to make sure I didn't kill them.

[Lady C]

Bump . . .

JayKay - what did you decide to do?

[Merrida]

Originally Posted by LiftGirl

I agree, but if it's a case of true metabolic resistance that requires a dramatic low calorie diet (below 1200) then they need to be medically supervised. It's dangerous and incredibly difficult to get the proper nutrients, IMO.

True. VLC diets usually run around 800 (not 500) and are generally all liquid and reserved for those roughly 200 pounds OVERWEIGHT, and,....they are medically supervised.

I totally get the "lowER calorie diet" to get a jump start, but the jump start is, imho, artificial because her body may well shut down, metabolically, after that point.

She'll need to increase calories sllooowwwllly or she'll regain bodyweight even faster than she took it off.

Sorry guys, I know that's off topic from the OP's original question, but the 500/day thing got me. That's usually what I recommend people remove as a deficit (250 through food, and 250 through exercise).

I couldn't live on less than a thousand a day, lifting or not, I'd topple over.